Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign C

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bern...tor-status-vietnam-campaign/story?id=33434041
    Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign Confirms

    During the Vietnam war Bernie Sanders applied for conscientious objector status, a fact that his campaign confirmed to ABC News.
    I would not vote for Bernie since he is a socialist. I also would never vote for a conscientious objector for president / Commander in Chief. Bernie needs to fold up his campaign here and now. There is no way that a conscientious objector should even consider running for POTUS.

    Bernie says that we need to destroy ISIS ! really ? How ? Shall we declare a crusade and put together an army of conscientious objectors from the US, the ME, and Europe and send them to defeat ISIS.

    Anyone else just PO'd about Bernie Sanders being a conscientious objector ?


    Time to go home Bernie. You just have to cross over the state line ....
     
  2. Kode

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    Nope. No problem. Plenty of people were correctly against the Vietnam War. Some left the country. Some volunteered for National Guard to avoid the draft. Some volunteered for the Coast Guard. Bernie didn't hide. He stood up and admitted he objected on the basis of his conscience. VERY admirable of him. I joined the submarine service myself. And Bernie is a socialist in the tradition of FDR. Nothing wrong with that, either.
     
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    i actually find it kinda cute. like putting american in your ethnicity /race or 2x a day under sex.
     
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    nam luvrs know what they can do with it
    he was 110% correct in ignoring that attempt at a Tonkin oil grab
     
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    Unlike the GOP tough talkers, Bernie isn't a coward. He opposed the war, so he didn't fight in it. This is in stark contrast to the likes of Trump or Cruz who have never seen battle.

    All you're pointing out is that Sanders has integrity.
     
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    As a conservative contemplating all of Bernies ideology his conscientious objector status is at the bottom of the list and not worth mentioning.
    If Hillary doesn't make the nomination I suspect your objection will quickly fade also. Amazing.
     
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    I'm not a bernie fan, but watching conservatives try to get mileage from this brings the same combination of bemusement & mild nausea as the complete lack of interest in the issue of 'Natural Born Citizens' that has suddenly befallen the herd now that Canadian Ted is their new standard bearer. Dodging military service or wars service is practically a core conservative value these days. Quayle, Bush 2, 'I had better things to do' Cheney, The Donald & more besides. Bernie opposed the war & refused to fight in it. Sounds fair enough to me.
     
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    The conscientious objectors were correct. Vietnam wasn't worth a single drop of American blood.
     
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    I would Have been shocked if he hadn't!
     
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    WTF does your post have to do with my question ?
     
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    The Vietnam war had nothing to do with "oil grab". It was a war with a Soviet/Red Chinese vassal state - North Vietnam.
     
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    If he applied for it honorably, and he met the criteria, why would I care? The legal status was in law and policy for a reason. In any case it does not tell us much about the man running forty years later.
     
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    Serving in the FANG or TANG or being a Coastie or an Underwater Swabie is not at all equivalent to a conscientious objector. What it is roughly equivalent to is to someone like Dickles Cheney who avoided serving but loved being a chicken hawk and who as the real POTUS during the reign of Little W.
    Dickles was also a conscientious objector until he blew his cover when he shot his friend in a hunting "accident" - that useless chicken hawk POS.


    PS - There was a Coastie at Walter Reed in the orthor ward when I was there after Vietnam who was wounded on a river boat in the Delta. So even some Coasties served. There was a guy in my Veterans post who served in the South Pacific during WW II in the Coast Guard. So at one time Coasties did fight if only a little.
     
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    Being a true conscientious objector and being against the Vietnam war are not the exact same thing. A real honest conscientious objector is against serving in any war. I do not know if Bernie boy was a real CO or not. There have been those who were just afraid to go into the military who claimed falsely to be CO's are the true scum of the earth as low or lower than the chicken hawks.
     
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    I must be a conscientious objector also since I conscientiously object to anyone who claim CO status from serving as president.


    Look I am sure that Bernie is a nice old man - for a socialist that is- but we need to have high principle in order to serve as president and I do not see many at all in this cycle from either side. Kasich is one and Graham was and Webb probably could have been. JEB who knows ?
     
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    And Donald Trump got four student deferments and a mysterious medical exemption.

    I'll give Bernie credit for having the courage to stand out and expose himself to ridicule by honestly stating his objection, over the likes of Trump, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Bush who all sleezed their way out using back door gimmicks.
     
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    For a conscientious objector he sure is carpet bombing the hell out of the DNC's chance of getting to the WH this year. Bernie might have the heart and soul and more to the point the wallets of the nations youth but he would be defeated in the general. In the meantime Obama is caught up in the pincers of the Hillary email scandal and in a damned if he does and damned if he does not allow Lynch to indite when the FBI concludes it's investigation. This has been an entertaining year for me thanks to the three ring circus they have been putting on
     
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    Neocon warmongering chickenhawk draft dodgers are probably acceptable to the OP, but a person that does not condone war and sticks by his convictions via policies and a voting record just does not make the cut...go figure...LOL
     
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    CO's had very little to do with opposition to the war. They figured it was a great line to give the babes in hopes to get laid.
     
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    If you don't want fight for your country, than you might be considered a "traitor" or a scum bag that will thrown down your gun and run and hide. That is what Old Beat-Nick Bernie did.... In fact he should wear a "big yellow sign" on his back.
     
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    As time extends in the weeks and months ahead, we will probably learn more about Beat-Nick Bernie on how he really hated United States of America and all it's founders and their political ventures.
     
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    well Hillary can always get behind her infamous vote for the Iraq war to show what a hawk she is to appeal to the voters
     
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    So an old , senile , COWARD wants to be Commander in Chief . Maybe he will just tell ISIS to please stop .
     
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    They do seem to go for people who beat their chests and go on jingoistic rants.

    They even still like them after they start disasterous wars and lose them!
     
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    Good for Sanders. Vietnam, like most American made wars since Korea, have been US made and immoral.
     

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