Best $20 Ever Spent - WND Contributes to Obama Campaign as Osama!

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  1. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol:

    We need to audit the Romney campaign for the source of ANY money he provided to HIMSELF!

    It could EASILY have come from a foreign ip from his banks in the Cayman Islands or Switzerland!
    :lol:
     
  2. raytri

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    I guess we should all be upset about that time Romney flew to Israel and held fundraisers. :eyeroll:
     
  3. Radio Refugee

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    Scapegoating for the Scumbag-in-Chief gets easier every time, doesn't it?
     
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    Everyone, you should consider WHICH handle you want to pull - If many Righties share THIS "voting strategy", the "Romney" lever and all the ********* candidate levers will be a toxic biological sewers!

    Stay clean - stay Left!
     
  5. raytri

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    It would be harder if you could point out what the problem is.
     
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    Scapegoating?! You may need to look up the meaning of that term. The Obama campaign received a perfectly legal campaign donation. I'm not sure how legal the actions of your heroes are though.
     
  7. raytri

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    This is sort of dodging the point. If WND hadn't admitted what they did, the donation would look like it came from Pakistan based on the IP -- even though for it to work, the donor had to lie about their ZIP code.

    The question is, is that a legitimate issue? Should campaign websites have some sort of mechanism in place to prevent any overseas donations? Or is returning illegal donations an acceptable remedy?

    It's a *stupid* question, because it is totally legal for Americans living overseas to donate, and returning donations is a long-established and acceptable remedy to the problem of illegal donations.

    But that's the question, and you shouldn't use a technicality to avoid answering the question.
     
  8. Radio Refugee

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    The problem is you can't see the problem.
     
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    So? Do you never travel? I've donated from overseas. The world didn't end. Do you have a point?
     
  10. raytri

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    Ah, I see. So you assert there is a problem, but can't explain what it is. Got it.

    Let me see if I can help.

    What kind of donations are illegal? Donations from noncitizens. We agree so far?

    Now, what should campaigns do to keep noncitizens from donating? That's the question here, right?

    Since it's perfectly legal for American expatriates to donate to campaigns, you can't just ban donations from foreign IPs. Do you agree?

    So there needs to be another way to weed out the illegal donations.

    The current method used by both campaigns is to audit their donations and return illegal ones.

    This, to me, seems to address the problem in full: the campaign doesn't get to keep the money. And since the whole point of the donation was to give the campaign more money, this would seem to be a 100% remedy.

    Do you disagree? If so, why?

    And if you do disagree, what is your proposed solution to the problem?
     
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    My point was that you should address the actual question raised, not ignore it on the technicality that WND is based here in the U.S.

    You may note that your answer is the same as mine: that there is nothing illegal about Americans who are overseas donating to campaigns.
     
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    I was kind of shocked the first time I donated to a campaign but if you think about it they simply do not have the manpower to police all these little donations in real time. Now I know if you donate in bigger chunks or your donations total above a certain amount different levels of logging and scrutiny kick in. I'm sure small amounts of foreign donations go to presidential candidates all the time. But none of them have any practical effect on the campaigns so I can't imagine there has been any call for the candidates to root out all nickle and dime foreign donations. Why would they and why would anyone want them to?
     
  13. raytri

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    Because when Obama does the same thing that every other presidential candidate does, it's scary and wrong.
     
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    The money came from a throw away credit card using a fake physical address and a Pakistani IP address.

    There is absolutely nothing about it that tells the obama campaign that the donation came from anywhere in the US. Not that that would stop them from accepting it in the first place.
     
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    The BBC website has a block to keep people from watching their shows unless they have a UK IP address.
    It's not that hard.
     
  16. Radio Refugee

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    And THAT is exactly IT.

    My understanding is that foreign nationals can do this without end when donating to OBAMA but not to Romney.
     
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    But, instead, the obama nimrods on this site will either excuse it as "well, everyone does it" or just play dumb. Or, dumber as the case may be.
     
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    Now it's on you to prove Romney does the same.

    But really, we both know you don't care. You're an intellectual fraud.

    .
     
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    Wow... look at you sorry ass Obama apologist. You're a pathetic lot... seriously.

    There is basically no oversight to Obama's campaign website which assures that donations to Obama comply with rules... but you guys don't care.

    Great job by the folks at WND for exposing this. This story needs to go viral, I'll do my part... off to spread the word now...
     
  20. raytri

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    So what's it?

    It is not illegal to accept a donation from abroad. Plenty of Americans live abroad.

    You don't have to be a foreigner to provide a fake name and address.

    IAs a web developer, I'd be curious what security could possibly be put in place that would catch simple lying like that at the point of the transaction. It would take a national white pages database -- which would almost certainly be full of inaccuracies.
     
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    They aren't 'playing' dumb, Baby!
     
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    You haven't given us a reason to care. The Romney site is not different. And I've made donations from over seas so a foreign IP address can't bar people from donating. Some of us Americans have passports you know and like to use them every once in awhile.

    What do you propose should be done by Obama and Romney?
     
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    Do I need to give YOU a reason to care? You're either opposed to this or not.

    Prove that the Romney site is the same.

    :rolleyes: (*)(*)(*)(*)ing obamabots
     
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    More inventing issues because you can seem to fight obama on the real issues.

    You dont checkthe ip adress you check the credit card country of origin. And here its clearly the USA, doesnt matter he used a pakistani proxy .

    Pathetic really

    Btw: yes its probably a lot easier for romney he doesnt get the millions of campagin donations for a few bucks from ordinary people. He just has his couple of coorporate sponsers and his cult he cals a religion, a lot easier to check those.
     
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    Only a fool would give money to any political party. I refuese to pay out into media corporate corruption and BS.

    WHen you think (if you think) campain money, where do you think it ends up? Where doese that tax free money go? Who pockets it?

    Politicians beg for the campain money and sell their souls for it. And they pay the jewish media mogules to spin their story, tax free.

    You can't tell me the system is not rigged.
     

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