BIDEN’S VIETNAM: 60K Americans Dead from COVID-19 in First Three Weeks of Presidency.

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  1. Zorro

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    BIDEN’S VIETNAM: 60K Americans Dead from COVID-19 in First Three Weeks of Presidency.

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    More Americans have died from COVID-19 in the first three weeks of Joe Biden's presidency than during the entire Vietnam War, a grim milestone for a leader who vowed to make ending the pandemic "the first priority, the second priority, and the third priority" of his administration.
    Numerous media outlets marked the occasion when COVID-19 deaths surpassed Vietnam War deaths under former president Donald Trump. NPR, among others, reported at the time:
    New York magazine correspondent Olivia Nuzzi noted the milestone during a press conference in April 2020.
    she asked Trump.

    The COVID-19 death toll on Biden's watch is the equivalent of 25 Pearl Harbors and 20 9/11s.

    Seems like this should be taking precedence over trying to impeach a former President who isn't even in office. The first impeachment shut down the entire Congress over an impeachment without a crime while the pandemic was infiltrating our shores. Now the second impeachment, without a crime, has shut down the government again, and he isn't even in office!

    When will Dems get over their unhealthy obsession with Trump and get to work for the American People?
     
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    Thank for proving once again that trumpees are very confused people. Or are you attempting to be dishonest? Surely even you can understand that trump owns this disaster. Biden just has to clean up trump's gigantic mess, which left us the 4th or 5th worst country in the world in dealing with Covid.

    Is that too complicated for you? I can draw pictures if that would help.
     
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    Fake News. Trump had nothing to do with Fauci funding this research at Wuhan University.
    Trump had nothing to do with the insecurity of the Lab that let this deadly pathogen out.
    Trump had nothing to do with the Lying Outlaw Slavers of Beijing lying about person to person transmission while 5 million people left Wuhan for destinations throughout the world.

    Biden did solemnly pledge to make the Pandemic his first, second and third priority, yet, he is signing stacks of EO's and the House focus is on removing a President that already left office. And while Biden and Democrats waste precious time settling private political scores, MORE AMERICANS HAVE DIED IN THREE WEEKS ON BIDEN'S WATCH THAN WERE KILLED IN NINE YEARS IN THE VIETNAM WAR.

    That's a lot of dead Americans and Biden is just going to sit there looking stupid and pointing fingers? That's it? That's his big "plan"?
    That's nice.
     
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    Wow! The fanatics really are desperate. You'd have to wonder what is worse, actually believing this stuff or knowing that it is tripe & posting it anyway.
     
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    I guess it is sorta similar. I mean, if we sent 70 and 80 year olds with diabetes and heart disease to march around in the jungle, they would pretty certainly die, and we could then label their death as 'combat' instead of 'covid'.

    ...but then we wouldn't have 'cured' the flu.
     
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    That's the second thread the OP has started on this topic. That's after not showing any concern over covid deaths for one year (except when he could use them as political football against Cuomo in the nursing home debacle), and after peddling HCQ as a treatment. I'd say, the OP has negative credibility with respect to anything covid. He knows this, so he just resorts to trolling.
     
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    Guaranteed that the MSM would have reported the exact same thing as in the OP had it been a Republican in office. And the left here at PF would be eating it up, placing blame squarely on the president.

    What goes around, comes around. Well, except for the fact that the MSM is clearly leftist, and that makes it easy for leftists to spew their rhetoric, and not quite so easy for the conservatives.
     
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    Let's see. The first three weeks of Joe's Presidency we (America) would probably been realizing the effects of all the trumpers that socially mingled during the Christmas and New Years Eve holidays which would be an increase. Still, considering that, how did Joe's first three weeks compare to trump's last three weeks in office? Did you compare?


     
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    ~ Joe quickly surpassed even Andy "Killer" Cuomo's stellar record of Covid death - in only 3 weeks !!
     
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    Come on man... you can't be serious.... I have a plan.. ok, well, no I don't have a plan...

    Biden doesn't have what it takes to lead. He's rebuked science, can't get the schools in democratic cities to reopen and is determined to pay off who he thinks are his voters, even if they are illegal immigrants....
     
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    ~ I honestly believe Biden is nothing more than a figurehead. He is doing what he is told by "advisors" - who are likely being steered by special interests including the mid east and China. Biden does not even know what's going on.
    This entire fiasco will soon blow up in everyone's face - including the media
     
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    you described what Obama was as well

    Neither of them ever had a real job or had to meet payroll.
     
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    look, threads like this were ridiculous when Trump was in office as well, but where were you? Why, you were attacking Trump.

    It's a freaking virus and no politician can eradicate it and given that covid is now endemic, it's time to learn to live with it much like other viruses, and that means with an open economy and no mask mandates or distancing. If people want to risk getting sick just like cold and flu season, then so be it. If you want to mask up, go for it, but don't whine if others are unmasked.
     
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    I agree with some of what you say. I find it also ridiculous that people on the left say that Trump is to blame for ALL of the almost half million dead. He is not, however, he DOES share blame for the US being the worst in the developed world with respect to covid cases and deaths. His mishandled response it so blame, as well as the absolute inability of many Americans to follow orders that could help their countrymen by keeping a pandemic under control.

    However, claiming, like the OP, that Biden is somehow responsible for the deaths in the last 3 weeks, when deaths are a LAGGING indicator (i.e. it takes 2-4 weeks for people to die after they are infected), is the height of hypocrisy, especially considering that the OP had nothing to say about deaths under Trump. Biden hasn't even been in office long enough to make an impact on covid deaths. It is also dishonest, and shows a lack of the OP's knowledge of the science.

    So, what do you say? Can you discuss this topic in a rational manner that is not biased by political affiliation, or do you defend the OP's utterly ridiculous hypothesis? Me, if covid deaths are still high in 6 months form now, I would absolutely blame Biden, if he bungles the vaccination effort.
     
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    Good lord man, do you understand the supply shortfalls of glass and many other things needed for packaging the vaccine? Nobody can snap their fingers and all of a sudden there are sufficient raw materials for the entire globe. There was no ACTION that ANY politician could take in any country to somehow create another materials to house the vaccines. Countries were in lockdown and as far as manufacture of raw materials right here in the good ole USA, the environmentalists and Democrat politicians screwed that pooch decades ago thus forcing those industries to move overseas

    You see, if you want actual intellectual honesty, no politician, not even a Democrat politician could have made a difference because the inability of this country to produce had that ship sail quite a while ago. Enacting the wartime production is an empty act because you can't get the raw materials and tool up quick enough.

    The sound bites of Trump didn't do this or didn't do that are just that, sound bites to toss red meat to Democrat voters. We screwed ourselves a long time ago and the average person will not pay the price of goods if we wanted to try and bring back industry.

    Off topic- watch the price of gasoline/transportation rise now due to Democrat policy. Then, watch the prices of all goods rise due to transportation costs. Actions have consequences and actions to shutter some industries hamstrung this country from being able to act when things like Covid hits

    But go ahead and blame the former POTUS for things that were set in motion decades ago
     
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    What Dem policy made gas prices rise in three weeks after Biden took office? There is another thread on this ridiculous claim. Gas prices are rising because demand is increasing due to people driving more, which they didn't do in the middle of last year.

    Second, I am all for getting jobs and industry back from China. However, tariffs is the wrong approach, the multinationals will just move to the next lowest bidder. You have to penalize them for offshoring. Yet, Trump gave them a hefty corporate tax cut. That's counterintuitive.
     
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    Indeed, this kind of stuff may require an entirely new definition entry for: "unhinged"

    I mean, aren't the same people who said that C19 was no worse than the common cold or flu and by golly it's sure ok if grandma or grandpa croak in order to keep the economy going....

    Mebbe all that bleach was not so good, after all.
     
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    If Trump is responsible for any deaths, it would only be indirectly and it would only be those who spurned the safety measures after watching him do the same while downplaying the virus for months. But even with that, the responsibility mostly falls on the shoulders of those actually choosing to ignore the safety measures.

    Trump could have chosen to handle things like an adult instead of the petulant child approach he used with everything else, but that's expecting him to have been somebody he isn't. But even so, I think it's folly to cite a covid death statistic and then say it's Trump's fault. It's not. Nor was the economic hit we've taken.
     
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    A refreshing example of holding a biased opinion (which we all have) while still maintaining an objective grip on reality.

    This should be the norm, but given 'the new normal', deserves a round of :applause:
     
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    He once cut & pasted an article on Robert Mueller and went through the entire thing replacing Robert with 'Dirty Bob', so 'negative credibility' is pretty much a permenant state. My description was not chosen at random. Interesting to see who turns up to agree with him. An exercise in like associating with like.
     
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    nobody ever claimed that common sense prevails. CLose Keystone= prices rise for OPEC oil because less US competition is expected

    result = rising energy prices. Please spare me acting like you don't understand

    Why did my health insurance premiums rise for all of my employees immediately after Democrats passed the ACA yet it still wasn't in force????? Actions have consequences and generally to the avg person
     
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    Biden straight up said he would cure cancer if elected, wonder if Mexico will pay?
     
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    WELL, FLORIDA VOTED FOR TRUMP: Biden Considering Stronger Travel Restrictions On Red States Than On Mexico.

    Dead Americans and locking down Red States while opening the border with Mexico so that illegal immigrants can flood in. Joe The COVID and Civil Rights Nightmare.

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    In just 3 weeks.​

    That's more dead Americans than died in war from 1961 in the present.

    Vietnam War ------- 1961–75 ---------58,209 Dead
    War in Afghanistan -2001– present 2,420 Dead
    Iraq War ---------------2003–11 --------4,576 Dead

    Total ----------------------------------------65,205

    All of Vietnam, All of Afghanistan, All of Iraq War, Plus a Pearl Harbor, in just 3 weeks under Joe Biden.

    And his response? Open the Borders with Mexico and ban all travel in and out of Florida.
     
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    " Impeach 46 ! Fight for what's right ! "
     
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    Looks Like Joe has passed 72,000 dead since he was sworn in. That's more dead Americans than ALL of our military combat deaths since the Korean War .

    Vietnam War 1955–1975 47,424
    1958 Lebanon crisis 1958 1
    Bay of Pigs Invasion 1961 4
    Cuban Missile Crisis 1962 1
    Dominican Republic 1965 27
    USS Liberty incident 1967 34
    El Salvador Civil War 1980 22
    Beirut deployment 1982 256
    Persian Gulf escorts 1987 39
    Invasion of Grenada 1983 18
    1986 Bombing of Libya 1986 2
    Invasion of Panama 1989 23
    Gulf War 1990 149
    Operation Provide Comfort 1991 1
    Somalia 1992 29
    Haiti 1994 1
    Bosnia-Herzegovina 1992 1
    Kosovo War 1998–1999 4
    War in Afghanistan 2001 1,833
    Iraq War 2003–2011 3,836
    ISIS 2014 16
    Raid on Yemen 2017 1
     
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