Biden Admits Trump got better deal then NAFTA

That's right.

Which proves that even when Trump signs a trade agreement - and he brags about it - he can renege on his signature for any electoral consideration.

What message is it sending to the other G20 nations?

You can't trust me.

 

Canada in readying retaliatory tariffs, so they aren't agreeing with Trump's aluminum election stunt.

 

Cool...they can...but the President didn't agree with what they did first...and the agreement allows Trump to do this. I

Why are you so pro-Canada? I am American, I am pro-America. I don't have an issue with Canada at all, and I am glad we have a President that created an agreement that allows the two nations to agree to disagree at times, and work together to hopefully get a positive economic solution in the end for both nations.

 

You might actually want to read the agreement. I doubt you have or most people have but I also do not doubt you pose as if you understand it because you like Trump and buy what he says about it.

In fact my country Canada ended up getting a better deal in the latest agreement as did Mexico as well as the US. Any assumption you make based on Trumpisms that in a free trade deal one side must do better than the other is ignorant and therein lies the proiblem. You buy into a all or nothing belief in negotiations. Anyone who has ever engaged in a business deal knows for a business agreement of any kind to work it has to be a win win never a win lose or lose win.

Trump feed you a pathetic line that he takes but does not give in deals. He sold a book from a ghost writer stating when ne negotiates, he wins by being tougher than the other side and bullying them from the get go.

You really buy into that macho bullshit? You really think that is how complex agreements are arrived at? Trump had nothing to do with the agreement. He tried to stop it many times. He never read it. He can't read as you should be well aware by now.

He poses and postures making people like you think he did the negotiations and because of him he protected the US.

Can you please read the agreement. 35 of your states trade with Canada and the agreement facilitates that and they were all opposed to what Trump said and did. No they were not selling out the US because they disagreed with him.

As for his stunt with milk from Wisconsin that is all it was, a stunt. It was less than a minor issue.

The issue Trump resurrects is aluminium. Bottom line is Canada makes good aluminium cheaper than US aluminium and Trump for all his talk on free enterprise will not hesitate to interfere and try control free trade when it does not suit the party he represents.

Trump does not care about his construction industry and the thousands of works who depend on work in that sector. He cares about an aluminium cartel in the US that wants to keep its price for aluminium higher than the price buying Canadian aluminium is. End of story.

This protects the aluminium cartel in the US controlling the price of aluminium and keeping it artificially high. That then means the price for building goes up and is passed on to the consumer. It has a ripple effect that causes more harm to Americans than had he allowed the market place set the price of aluminium.

This is not about free trade. Its about Trump protecting a limited narrow interest of an elite cartel whose profit does not circulate to Americans and create American jobs.

Go do your homework and see who the cartel is and what preventing free markets for the price of aluminum actually costs your country NOT saves.

You really buy this crap he's an American first protector? His entire life was built on marketing cheap goods from Asian markets under-cutting American markets. His entire career was spent using bankruptcy as a technique to avoid paying works who built the buildings with his name. When that scam was over-used he switched over to simply renting out his name on products built overseas.

Trump harms the US economy because he can not put his ego to the side and understand Canada was never his enemy and our mutually interconnected economies are a benefit not hinderance to both sides.

No we do not price dump aluminum. We make better aluminum even with the price difference he has not built in to try encourage people to buy American aluminum. He in fact has admitted the US is afraid of Canada selling a product better and cheaper then an American one. That does not address the issue it hides it.

You buy into a script where you think he bullied Canada into a better deal with the US/ What he in fact done is breach the free trade deal and shown he continues to lie. He told Canada he would remove the tarrif and in fact put it back on. He lied. He lied to his closest economic ally. You think that won you something?

Has it? Is your construction industry buying American aluminium at far higher prices then they should, won anything? Has protecting an uncompetitive inferior product protected you or a cartel? Can you name one industry in the US that benefits from needlessly inflated prices on products?

 

the agreement...as i posted earlier..allows for these “snap back” provisions. One of the better things about this agreement then NAFTA and what Biden failed to do for 50 years

 

Exactly.

Canadians are tired of hearing Trump lie about their country, so much so I think it would be extremely difficult for a Canadian government to make a concession on a key concern for their voters like exporting Canadian water to this country.

 

That's not true.

In order to be able to impose tarrifs on Canadian aluminum, Trump pretexted a national security clause - as if Canada were the enemy of the US.

In any case, the U.S. trade deficit continued to increase under Trump.

 

Well national security is more then dealing with Canada...it is certainly true he can do the snap back provision as I said

Yes Trump can't change things that have been trending a certain way for decades, in just a couple years. Come on man

 

Great. Now, we're going to get "snap back" Canadian retaliatory tariffs.

There was no NAFTA even 30 years ago. Get a clue.

 

1) sure they are free to do that too...like I said the agreement allows for it....we will work it out...it's all about free and fair trade.
2) I know! Biden couldn't get a deal this good,50 years ago, 30 years ago, or even 3 years ago...and he certainly can't moving forward...sad

 

Canada has indeed ended up in a better position. Its free trade agreement with the EU makes Canada attractive as a place to manufacture for both the US and Europe.

Out here in British Columbia at Kitimat we have one of the most efficient aluminum producers in the world.

https://www.bechtel.com/projects/kitimat-aluminum-smelter-modernization/​

Wait until Canada retaliates. Trump will trash Canada and Canadians.

 

Yep...Canada, Mexico and the USA all have benefited....that's what a real leader can do...thanks Mr. President.

I'll wait on Canada...just like I'll wait on all those other failed predictions the left has made

 

Propaganda Alert!

You have no idea what you're talking about. Canada has lower tariffs than we do, so your claim about "free and fair trade" is nonsense.

 

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Canada has lower tariffs than we do, so your claim about "free and fair trade" is nonsense.[/QUOTE]

STRAWMAN ALERT!!!

Great...glad they do ...what's your point?

Free and fair trade isn't nonsense...it's a great thing...and something this President has finally tried to get from the people of the United States.

 

Trump was trash talking Canada and Mexico throughout the negotiations.

This what Canadians think of the Orange Oaf...



BC = British Columbia
AB = Alberta
ON = Ontario
QC = Quebec

LPC = Liberal Party of Canada
CPC = Conservative Party of Cana
NDP = New Democratic Party
GPC = Green Party of Canada[/QUOTE]

You do that.

 

Trump isn't trying for "free and fair trade." He's the "nonsense."

 

Trump created NAFTA 2.0. It is a big nothing.

 

Well Biden disagrees.....he said it's way bigger and beater


Sorry

 

I understand you are upset....but the deals he has made, shows the opposite of your claim

I am sorry that upsets you....Biden doesn't like free and fair trade either....alot of leftist don't....hence why they support slavery

 

You do that. [/QUOTE]

Cool, glad he stood up for America and got a great deal for all three nations!

 

Trump made some minor updates, but yes, they were needed, wish could have been more, but incremental improvements good

dem or repub would have done the same, dems were already talking about it before Trump did it

 

exactly, it's just a minor update and they know it

where is the great north korea deal, the iran deal, the china deal... were waiting

Trump promised us those deals, what happened?

 

Not really, Nafta got a minor updating. I haven't seen a single economist say it was more than that.

 

Our TRADE IMBALANCE with both China and Mexico set a new record high in July!!! Obviously the new NAFTA is helping Mexico!!

 

i haven’t seen one support your claim.

and yes, watch the OP Biden says Trump got a better deal!

Trump did in 3 years what Biden couldn’t in 50!