Blocking Cell Phones

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Should Business Have the Right to Block Cell Phones?

Poll closed Oct 12, 2014.
  1. No, I have the right to use my cell phone that is absolute.

    53.8%
  2. Yes, I want to enjoy my leisure time.

    46.2%
  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I agree. My cell phone is always on vibrate and if it buzzes in a theater or a restaurant or something and I HAVE to take the call them I will excuse myself and go outside. It's just sad that we even have to discuss implementing laws due to people just having no respect for others.

    I've noticed over the years that more and more policies are being implemented due to the simple fact that people just don't have common courtesy anymore.

    People really are glued to these cell phones like they are newborn children. I was at work last night and this guy's cell phone randomly broke and he panicked like his mother just died. He was pacing around the floor and using the work phone to call the cell phone company and saying how he HAD to get to the store before they closed at 8pm. The other guy said we are on shift man you can't leave why don't you just get it fixed tomorrow. No no I can't I need it tonight and I need it tomorrow I use it for an alarm clock. The other guy said don't worry man we're neighbors Ill come wake you up when its time to go to work. No man I can't I have to get it fixed can I please go to the store can you cover for me.

    Im like Jesus kid its a freakin phone. You aren't going to DIE if you dont have your cell phone for 12 hours for most of which you will be sleep. Im not exaggerating when I say this kid was literally pacing back and forth on the floor and trying to break the iphone open and fix it. It was sad.

    I'm technically part of "this generation" and I think most of these people are sad. When Im not on standby for work I treat my cell phone like a house phone. If it rings and it's out of arms reach or if it buzzes for a text then I'll get it when I get it. If it was important enough they will leave a message. My friends sometimes ask me why I didnt answer the phone. They can't understand the concept of just because its a cell phone doesn't mean Im going to walk around the house with the thing in my pocket. I dont even know where the thing is half the time when I am home.

    I've almost gotten hit from behind in my truck so many times from some stupid kid trying to text message and drive at the same time. Or Ive almost rear ended people multiple times because they are texting and they aren't paying attention then they slam on their brakes and I have to slam on mine. Hell 2 days ago on my way to work I almost slammed into the side of some idiot who was talking on his cell phone and ran a stop sign to turn a corner. The ABS kicked in and I ran over a bunch of traffic cones to swerve out of the way and not smash into the side of his little Honda Civic. He then throws the phone down and gives me the little wave like hey sorry.

    I sound like an elderly man talking about "those damn kids" but Im serious. Cell phones are becoming an addiction to where people are literally feigning if they don't have their cell phone glued to their hands. Put the damn cell phone away for 30 mins. I 100% promise you that Facebook will still be there by the time you get home. I PROMISE.
     
  2. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    I was actually in nice restaurants, in concerts, in theaters, in churches, and in funerals before cell phones. Apparently, you weren't. Yes, I occasionally heard people talking in movies, rarely in nice restaurants or theaters. Never in operas. But, selfish nitwits with their cellphones feel free, and empowered, to impose on everyone. Talking about common courtesy is pointless since it's become to amazingly uncommon.

    As for the technology, you can block the signal in a building without blocking outside the building. There might be spots in the building where a cell phone may work but it would be effectively blocked. It happens now in countries where the government doesn't deny businesses and churches the right to some minimal control over their premises.

    And, I'm sure the selfish nitwits, NightSwimmer, could find another way to exercise the control over people that excites them so.
     
  3. NightSwimmer

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    I'm sorry that you feel that you are being controlled by strangers.
     
  4. NightSwimmer

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    I do know what you mean. People shouldn't fiddle with their phones while they're driving. They also shouldn't put on makeup or eat hamburgers. Nor should they have pet dogs roaming around inside their cab.
     
  5. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Man when I was driving on the interstate last week I literally saw a couple making out in front of me WHILE they were driving. The car honestly came a good 6 inches from the guard rail before they payed attention and swerved hard and almost hit the other car in the next lane.

    What the hell is wrong with people? What is seriously so hard about simply driving the car? You can make out when you get to your destination, text when you get there, put your makeup on when you get there, etc.

    I have very little tolerance for stupid people like that. If its just me in the truck then Im fine for the most part. Some punk was texting and almost slammed into the back of me when I had my son in the truck. Assault and battery laws were designed exactly for people like me that day which is what prevented me from dragging his ass out of his car window.

    I seriously pity the person who slams into the back of my truck if I have my son in the truck because they couldn't wait to update their Facebook status. I seriously pity them.
     
  6. PatrickT

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    But, I think people should still have the right to shout into their cell phone in first-class restaurant. I think at funerals they have a right to accept phone calls and loudly tell people what's going on. And, in a symphony concert, what's a little phone ringing and a few minutes loud talking. These people have an absolutely right to do that.

    I just thing the business owners, the venue managers, the church authorities should have the right to stop it without having to publicly humiliate the nitwits and throw them out. But, I certainly understand that some disagree and support the government in demanding that devices to block cell phones not be used and warnings not be given.

    "A Los Angeles restaurant is hoping a 5% from your meal will keep you off your phone while you eat. Patrons interested in the discount must check their tech at the door before being seated at Eva Restaurant on Beverly Boulevard, reports the KPCC."
    http://mashable.com/2012/08/19/discount-restaurant-no-phone/
     
  7. Wolverine

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    There really isn't a need to block cell phones.

    I am in a restaurant, and my phone rings, I take it outside.
    Or they can wait till i call them back (if I do).
    Or they can frikken text me.

    What benefit would blocking my phone offer?
     
  8. tecoyah

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    As a private business, the owner is free do set such rules as they see fit as long as it does not effect outside entities. If said rules hurt the business that is also their choice. We as consumers of services provided are free to go elsewhere.
     
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    Golly, you're right. That's why I never hear phones going off in nice restaurants or concerts. That's why we never hear people on cell phones in nice restaurants, theaters, concerts, churches, or funerals. They set their cell phones to vibrate and go outside or in the bathroom to yell.

    When I die I'm going to have my son toss my cell phone into the casket with me. And after the casket is closed and is heading to the furnace, the phone will start ringing. I think I'll have this set as the ringtone.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKDb99JYeM

    Tecoyah: "As a private business, the owner is free do set such rules as they see fit as long as it does not effect outside entities. If said rules hurt the business that is also their choice. We as consumers of services provided are free to go elsewhere."

    Oops. They cannot block cell phones by federal law. They can have a rule and then host a brawl in a first class restaurant. I wonder if the nanny state would allow and enforce a 25% surcharge on your bill for violating the posted cell phone rule?
     
  10. perdidochas

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    The whole thing is courtesy. To some degree, technology moved faster than did etiquette.
     
  11. FreshAir

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    Should Business Have the Right to Block Cell Phones?

    no, doctors and others often have pagers on Buzz so they can respond to emergencies

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  12. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In which case they can go elsewhere. As long as a sign is posted warning them.
     
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    and we charge business owners with murder if their blocking technology expands their business and causes someone to die

    no problem with them saying no talking on cell phones and turn ringers off, but that would be the extent of it

    do I have a right to disrupt the invisible signals entering my house if it effects my neighbor?

    what about in my car, the right to block radar detection waves?

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  14. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope....just as we do not charge a charter boat for a scuba diver dying. As long as the risks are explained and understood, the customer bares the responsibility.
     
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    if a charter boat leaves the diver in the water to fend for himself and heads back to shore, we most definitely charge them
     
  16. tecoyah

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    Yes we do...because the captain was negligent and carries responsibility because of it.
     
  17. PatrickT

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    I certainly agree but it isn't simply technology. When I was in junior high I asked a lady in the lunch room why we had fish sticks every Friday. "For the Catholcs." "There aren't any Catholics." "There might be some day. It's the same reason we don't serve ham. Jews don't eat pork."

    Could you imagine that happening today?
     
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    yes but you can turn off your phone or set it to silent when don't want to be disturbed.
     
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    I understand the sentiment but many of those places already require people to silence their phones, its common sense and basic courtesy to do so...restaurants is maybe going to far, part of the reason we dine together is to chat, what difference does it make if its to a person you're sitting with or a phone...just set the phone to vibrate and all is good...
     
  20. Nightmare515

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    Unfortunately not everyone in society has the common courtesy that you do.

    Policies are generally created due to some human beings having a complete lack of respect for their fellow man or because people are too stupid to use common sense.

    Why are there now laws being created against texting and driving? Because some people are too stupid to wait until they get home to update their Facebook status.

    Why are there laws against drunk driving? Because some people are too stupid to call for a ride or walk from the bar.

    Why do I now have to show an ID and give my personal information when I buy Sudafed at Walgreens? Because some people are too stupid to use cold medicine as cold medicine.

    Why do commercials have a disclaimer at the bottom saying "Fantasy, don't try this at home"? Because some people are so stupid that they will literally try to launch their new car off of a ramp and have it land on a train because they saw it on the commercial.

    Society keeps implementing more and more policies into everyday life because some people are so inconsiderate and stupid that they would do whatever they want, whenever they want, and wherever they want unless somebody specifically told them they couldn't. It's sad that society has to force people to have respect for each other nowadays.
     
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    The rule should not be that we have a law unless there's a good reason not to. The "null alternative" should be no law unless there is a good reason to write one. So, why should we have a law making blocking cell phones on your private property illegal. If restaurants, theaters, churches, concerts, and funeral parlors already have rules that are respected by their clients then there is no need for the law. If a business owner or the manager of a venue did not have a problem with cell phones ringing during a symphony or diners yelling into cellphones at dinner, they would scarcely be interested in buying a device for blocking cell phones so why have the law.
     
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    Well, from my time in schools, they generally only served fish in February and March (aka Lent). Unfortunately, in a primarily Protestant area, rarely was teh fish actually served on Friday....
     
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    And stores. Blocking smart phone reception increases sales, because folks can't get that signal to compare prices -- so they are willing to pay more.




     
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    I was in junior high before Vatican II. Eating meat on Friday was a sin. It was so long ago that people had respect for others. That's been fixed.
     
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    Not being a liberal, if a store chose to block cell phone use so I couldn't check prices, I'd shop somewhere else. If I couldn't stand to be disconnected from my cell phone I wouldn't go hear the symphony.

    Can we allow a bar to decide whether or not they want to allow smoking? Oh, hell, no. We can't let them do that. We can't allow the market to decide. People have to be controlled by the government. I don't smoke but I would choose a smoking bar if I went to bars.

    And we can't allow a business to decide whether or not they want cell phones used on their premises. No, that's also for the government to decide. The only place in the U.S. that can actually enforce a "no-cell use" edict is, of course, courtrooms and other government operations.
     

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