Britain, France and Germany blame Iran for attack on Saudi oil fields

I think it would be fair to say that part of Trumps decision was to end what Obama put in. However I do not believe you are right in that it was his decision alone.

who said it was.

 

Who knew, right? Like every rational mind in universe.

 

You did.. Read what you wrote.

 

Certainly, not heroic enough—and how smart their cowardice is...well, time will tell.

 

hmm. It would appear you are taking

personally. You was meant in the plural. One could of course say One.

 

OK. Call it what you choose, if Trump hadn’t violated it none of this mess would have happened and the world would have been a much safer place.

 

Trump has said he is the decider and from past behaviors it is obvious that he makes the decisions and anyone who disagrees soon leaves the administration.

 

They never wanted out of it. Trump wanted out of it.

 

I know. Trump was showing off again.

 

NO!!!!! you cannot call it whatever you want!!!!!
a treaty has to be approved by congress and thereby the American people!!!
congress never would have passed the Iranian agreement because the American people knew is was a bad deal.

the Iranian agreement was an agreement between the Obama executive branch and the Iranian government. NOTHING MORE! Obama's executive branch no longer exists thus the agreement was null and void anyway.

Furthermore it was an agreement the Iranians never had any intention of honoring.

I'll say it again.. The only thing Iran needs to know is that America will not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. That should be the entirety of a nuclear agreement with Iran.
and Yes we have the right because we are the good guys.

 

no one ever wants out of a lie.... The Iranian deal was a lie and Iran's current aggression is PROOF of that.

 

What has it to do with cowardice?

Do we have a border with Iran? Is Iran a threat for Germany? No. Infact Germany and Iran have good relations since hundreds of years. You want us to fight your wars.

 

The Iranians were honoring the agreement..

 

Obama's agreement with the Iranians gave them a way out and a way to save face .. Trump was just showing off.. He's dumb as a brick anyway.

 

The Limeys still have a pair.

The Germans were castrated after WW ll and have gotten soft eating sausages and drinking beer.

The French...

"Going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordion."

 

Except it is France, Germany and the UK that is keeping the nuclear deal with Iran alive. I hope they also pull out of the deal.

 

With all due respect, we see USA as castrated. Losing against shitholes like Vietnam, Afghanistan ect. Pathetic. We see you as fat and weak. Thats why we divide more and more.

Nobody wants to be assosiciated with a dieing "former" worldpower

 

Either you don't know history or you have been indoctrinated in revisionist history.

Don't forget those Aussies and Kiwis "down under" were also on the battlefields of Vietnam.

Can you name one battle where American troops were defeated in Vietnam ?

Quoting the Commander of all NVA forces, Gen. Giap after being defeated during the Tet Offensive of 68..."The American soldier can't be defeated on the battlefield."

The Hanoi government sued for peace in 1973 after President Nixon did what he should have done back in 1969 but had inherited LBJ's insane policies. Nixon mined North Vietnam harbors and bombed the **** out of North Vietnam.

Two years later North Vietnam violated the peace accord and invaded South Vietnam in 1975. The last American combat troops departed South Vietnam in 1973 leaving every province in the RVN in complete control of ARVAN forces.


FYI:
The French wouldn't allow West German troops to serve and fight in Vietnam.

But there was always a German hospital ship off of DaNang and the Germans had hosspitals all across South Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

The UK had other problems to deal with during the Vietnam War...Ireland.

The French as usual had already surrendered back in 54.

 

You got ****ed up in Vietnam and with all respect?

We germans defeated you on the battle field again and again. Your own general Patton said one german soldier is worth 12 american ones. In the end we could not fight UK, USA, Russia and France all at once. We miscalculated. But the americans were no problem.

We germans would have fought different and we would have won Vietnam.

You want the land, not the people. Uninhabitated land doesnt fight. You erase villages and all population and move forward. Thats how you win wars.

We had a similar war in Namibia in early 20th century. We won it by destroying the enemy. The natives started a guerilla war. They lost because we ignored them and went after their women, children and lifestock.

You may wine around now with wooohooo we won WW II bla bla but you know exactly that i´m right.

You know you ****ed up when you hold peace talks with some vietnamese rice farmers or taliban.

 

The PLF aka the Vietcong were never involved in the Paris peace talks. The VC were beaten to a bloody red during Tet of 68 and would never recover from the ass kicking.

FYI: The VC were not the NVA.
The VC were South Vietnamese communist.
You had "main force" VC, "regional force" VC and those little rice farmers who wore no uniform and conducted guerrilla warfare.

The NVA were the North Vietnam Army with tanks, artillery, suport forces and the NVA order of battle was organized just as any other western army.





Freaking liberals have been telling every Vietnam vet and every vet after the Vietnam War that they were broken.

I'm not broken, I just have a chip on my shoulder because my own peers and the Democrats back home backed stabbed the American soldier while we were still on the battlefield.

Re: WW ll, Patton and the Wehrmacht soldier.

The U.S. Army War Colleges is always rating the worlds armies.

You never judge an army to your own army.
So they use the British army in particular the individual British soldier and the British soldier is given a rating of "5."

During WW ll the American soldier was also rated a 5. The Soviet soldier was if I remember correctly rated as a 3.9 or a 4.2 something around there.

The Wehrmacht soldier was rated at a 5.2

The Wehrmacht was only defeated on the battlefield when superiorly outnumbers.

Special forces etc were not rated and given a rating like the Royal Marines, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Army Rangers.
They were the fighting elite.

The reason why Germany lost the war is because...
A corporal was micromanaging the war.
Germany didn't fight the war as total war until 1943 and by then they had already lost the war.

 

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You are not the supreme judge on moral that you seemingly think you are. Comparing today's Iran to Nazi-Germany is wrong on many levels and using unprovoked insults while, at the same time, complaing about name calling disqualifies oneself completely.

 

Not the the moral supreme judge? Well, as far as I’m concerned I am. I mean, who or what must one be in order to look at reality and come to a rational conclusion—Iran and Saudi Arabia are religious dictatorships—and past history demonstrates it’s not wise to appease tyrants.

My saying so don’t make it so; it being so does.

I call them as I see them—cowards appease, heroes stand tall. Look at France and Germany, bending at the knees, not wanting to offend Islamic tyranny.

Well, bending at the knees is the proper position of appeasers, so at least they are behaving according to the nature of their moral character.

 

You don't know anything about Iran or Saudi Arabia.

 

So you say. I disagree.

I know at least one thing—those that want to live free leave, or wish they could.

The one that did, Rahaf Mohammed:

https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/m/...saudi-teens-escape-to-canada-could-make-it-mo



And the one who wished she could, Maedeh Hojabri,