I was recently in France on business, and I couldn't help over here at conversation at another table at a restaurant. the conversation was essentially a British businessman complaining that he had to have a visa to go to France on business. He said "these f****** bastards are just mad that we left the EU, so now they make us get visas" you see this a lot even a couple years after brexit where British people complain about no longer getting the benefits of being a European Union member. they for some reason had it in their heads that leaving the European Union met still getting all the benefits of membership just without the requirement that the UK offer those benefits to other countries.
Why add the term British? I'm of course not suggesting conservatism is moronic Instead the issue is nationalism. While the British have a special empire-fed kind, it is generally harvested by right wing populism. That ensures rational discourse is increasingly sidelined.
Brexit was a scam, it was sold by telling people more money for NHS, that will never happen. Sold to people to stop 'illegal immigrants' who where already illegal, and in my opinion voiced by people who where on a dollar payroll and helping to break up the EU as is was becoming a powerful force. All I hear now in UK, regardless of the covid lockdown is people complaining about their holidays to 'England abroad'. I'm lucky, I have a EU passport and can leave this silly little island as and when I wish
From where Im living, in the UK, it was fueled mostly by Farage, Cummings and Johnson who where all at that time on a dollar payroll
Don't quote agree. Brexit, although fueled by nationalism, was reliant on the consequences of austerity. Personally, given the EU is at a forefront on neoliberalism, I was all in favour of Brexit. Tony Benn ain't wrong
Dag, first I agree with the overall post, but (yeah, the but) the way you described it this Brit could have been any political party. That said, awwwwwww......tell it to King George. We exited just fine, ourselves. Yes, the anti-Brexit people do whine. Yes, they got spoiled and then forgetful and now don't deserve any sympathy for refusing to go to wherever visas are issued, when before joining the EU they would have had to do that anyway.
I just wanted sad that so many people in England are so stupid and ignorant that they thought that they were going to still be able to just travel to Europe without a passport and not have to have a visa to enter a country. I've even seen people in England who had it in their heads that they were still going to have access to the EU work programs where you don't have to have a work visa to get a job in other countries. one of the businessmen I was talking about was complaining about getting fired from a company in Paris following brexit because as a British citizen following brexit he needed a Visa and didn't get one.
Not true! During the debates, Brexiteers poo-pooed any notion of a no-deal and even voiced that continued membership of the Single Market was an option. Its a myth that this was binary; a myth only encouraged way after the referendum outcome.
Brexit gapped because EU bureaucrats were ignoring the wishes of almost every country but Germany and they still are. By the way if you're that annoyed about having to get a Visa or a passport you probably should stay in your own damn country anyway. Oh one other thing, that's what's always going to happen with one world governments any the biggest richest loudest and likely most annoying to everyone else get all the attention.
How do you know he was a conservative? The liberals cried the loudest about this particular issue during the brexit debates. Anyway, there is no need for a visa to go from England to France through December 2020 unless you plan on staying for more than 3 months. What happens after the hardening Brexit, who knows.
This is drivel. You can accuse the EU of failing to ensure convergence. Naff all to do with bureaucrats though
They didn't really. The Remainers weren't any specific group. We do know, mind you, that the People's Vote was effectively taken over by folk more concerned about the threat of the left than the realities of Brexit.
How dare the people take over the people's vote by voting. Anywho, my guess is that the visa issue can be resolved in 10 minuted negotiations. It is all the other stuff and for some reason the EU seems like it is trying to screw things up.
The People's Vote was corrupted by Blue Labour. As shown by post-Corbyn era, they've typically all forgotten about Brexit. They effectively maximised the chances of a no deal shambles.
