https://www.aol.com.article/enterta...tone-says-she-was-deported-from-Iran/23763117 I don't know much about Joss Stone or her music, but according to her she was deported, even though she had no plans to perform there. Solo performances by women are illegal in Iran, where women are pretty much property, and Stone said the authorities were afraid that she would try to perform anyway. She landed at Kish Island, where in 2007 American Robert Levinson disappeared (see my thread 'Iranian assassinations of expatriates' in the Middle East section of this forum for more about Levinson). It always comes as shock to Western women to find out how few rights women have in Iran.
Neah. White people did that to black people. Some still like them days,... they got that racist attitude going. Joss Stone claims she was treated very nicely. So you know... She is on Iran's black list and may not enter the country.
Totally irrelevant. How does slavery in the past justify the oppression of women today? She was only on Iran's "black list" because they were afraid she would try to perform there, even though she knew that was illegal. She said she did not plan to try to perform there.
it's what leftist dems do, in an effort to discredit everyone else's beliefs... never take a leftie's word as factual, ever
At no point does it appear that Joss Stone had this feeling that she was treated as somebody's property. So you're just adding a falsehood to the narrative that is not there. Being somebodies property, something YOU brought up, means being a slave. And we do see that in racial issues of the US. You think this is the time for an American to say in Iran "you can trust me?", when Americans are trying to starve Iran to death by the 100.000's like they did with the oil for food program of Iraq. It's like hearing an Iranian employee with an oil tanker in the US saying, trust me I won't be selling oil here.
I never said that Joss Stone felt like she was someone's property. I said that Iran does not allow women to perform in solo entertainment. I then pointed out that this is an example of the oppression of women in Iran and said that women (who are legally worth only half as much as a man in Iran) were regarded pretty much as property. So your claim of me "adding falsehood" is itself totally false. Joss Stone is British, not American, so your comments about Iran trusting her are not as relevant.
People in the US/EU are not allowed to use heroine. That doesn't mean they are property of somebody. It really makes absolutely no sense at all. And just because you see it as oppression, doesn't mean they agree. It's cultural, and so that doesn't mean only the men approve their own culture. It doesn't work like that. As noted by Joss Stone herself, she was treated extremely well and polite. And basically beyond what she was used to. Exactly THAT... and here you go as if she was treated as property. It's quiet the opposite. Oh good lord, go nit pick this away, as if the UK got nobody banned from Iran.
I got that information from the news articles that reported her being deported. "She said she knew solo performances by women were illegal, but she still wanted to see Iran," article by Jon Gambrell, AP, July 4, 2019. Daily Mail Online said, "Soul singer Joss Stone says she was 'detained' and 'deported' by Iranian authorities after they blacklisted her, fearing she might perform a public show which is illegal for females in the country." Many other sources said the same thing. Neither of the two videos you showed were public performances, but were music videos.
Once again you are falsely putting words in my mouth. I never said Joss Stone "was treated like property." I said women in Iran (that is Iranian Women) were treated like property. The testimony of women in court is legally regarded as being worth only half as much as a man's. A daughter may inherit only half what a brother gets. A woman may not apply for a passport or travel outside of Iran without written permission from her husband or male quardian. Women in Iran are not permitted to live alone - they must live with a husband, father or male guardian relative. Women are subjected to antiquated dress code restrictions, while men may wear whatever Western style dress they want. Career choices for women are very limited. And, as was originally pointed out in the news articles about Joss Stone's deportation, women entertainers may not perform solo in public (I recently read about an Iranian teenage girl who posted on line some dance moves she had learned - she was arrested the next day for public performing). Would you like to live under restrictions like that?
That has nothing to do with property. You're just making it all up. And Joss Stone proves you wrong. It has nothing to do with ownership/property.
What is it I'm "just making it all up?" If you want to learn more about women's rights (or lack thereof) in Iran there are plenty of sources. According to Wikipedia, "Women's rights in Iran are limited compared to the women in developed nations. The World Econmic Forum's 2017 Global Gender Gap Report ranked Iran 140 out of 144 countries for gender parity."
nypost.com/2018/07/09/iranian-teen-arrested-for-dancing-on-instagram This story is about Iranian teenager Maedeh Hojabri who was arrested for posting videos of herself dancing in her room and posting them on Instagram. Facebook and Twitter are already blocked by Iranian authorities, and now Instagram may follow.
Well, she's British, so both of you are wasting your energy, since she has precisely dick to do with the points you are both trying to make...
That women are treated like property. According to Joss Stone she was treated with far more respect that she was used to. Peoples rights about using heroine are limited as well. Doesn't mean we're suddenly treated as property. People who have been treated like property: black people in the US. And even though on paper they got equal right, ... heck even the "justice" department is giving them harsher sentences compared to white people... yes... under same circumstances, in the land of the "free".
Joss Stone says she was treated well (other than being kicked out of the country), but she was there a very short time, and she's a celebrity. The Iranians knew she would report everything they did. Of course they treated her well. That really doesn't mean much. It says nothing about how Iranian women are treated. You still haven't answered my question "Would you like to live under restrictions like that?" Would you want to have your testimony in court be worth only half what the opposite gender's is worth? Wold you like to inherit only half what the opposite gender gets. Would you like strict dress codes when the opposite gender doesn't have any. Would you like to need your father's or guardians permission to get married regardless of what age you are? etc.etc. You may quibble or nitpick over the word "property" but any way you look at it, women certainly aren't treated even remotely fairly or equally.
Take note everyone, Iran once took pride in being the most advanced nation in Southwest Asia. Iran is what the Dominionists have in store for this country should they ever come to power. Theocracies CAN take over, be vigilant and aware.
Look at the lefties defending a country that treats women like lesser beings. Yup, you guys care soooo uch about women's rights, dontcha?
This is more a result of the entire Muslim/Middle Eastern culture which Iran is certainly a part of. Yet we cow tow to SA which is in many ways even worse than Iran in this. Regardless, every nation of Muslim leanings is a terrible place to be female. Anyway...I can see why they wanted her to leave.
The BBC are on Iran's blacklist too... As Jeremy Clarkson once said on BBC's Top Gear when trying to enter Iran 'Ant & Dec can get into Iran, but because we're BBC, we can't.'
