Let me know how it goes, I really like how the game looks, but I don't want to buy it until it goes on sale.
There is no money , commodities are exchanged for commodities . Everyone works same hours. Free housing and health care . Common ownership of the means of production. Multiple job specializations . Central economic planning. No slacking , farmers who don't work during winter are helping as laborers. Not a single sign of social ethics , 45 and married to a 12 year old? why the hell not! No quotas in consumption , yes it is perfectly fine to hoard 200 kilos of venison while the neighbor is starving No racism or nationalism , if we can afford nomads (immigrants) they are welcome. Children will not move to a new house until the community builds it . No control over people's actions, central government makes the plan and people do as they like. No permanent real estate ownership , villagers will gladly relocate if their house is close to their work. Since variation in food is critical 4 different farms with 4 different crops are highly superior to 1 huge farm producing a single crop. Luxuries (booze,cemetery, church) are not crucial but happy citizens work more. If it is available workers own it , you may need coal to make steel tools but you can not stop people for using it for fuel. No 9-5 jobs, citizens work when they like and they may take breaks to visit grandpa's grave or the tavern Not working = death , this is not the land of the lazy . Uneducated mob is just useless. With rare exceptions the community is pacifist . Since the game is very hard for starters : SPOILER ALERT Starting on hard is the best to understand the game , DO NOT make any farms until your food production is in surplus , NEVER accept nomads unless you have a hospital and loads of houses & food , you can set up a mine and a stone quarry but with multiple gathering/foresting clusters your firewood production will make it possible to import all iron & stone. DO NOT build orchards in general but if you do so only build them outside forester's radius . Keep walking distances short , food variety is king so export most of those 20 tons of fish .Berry ale is a possibility . Build a school ASAP and keep track of your births & deaths, school age people are ready to start families , i have lost at least 3 villages because of demographics. Infestations and diseases will kill your crops & livestock so avoid placing farms next to each other.
Favorite Franchises? Mario. Easy. Held up with hardly and fails over the years. Zelda, a close second. New games I'd say Mass Effect is one of my favorites. I really didn't like how few characters you used in the third one though. Bioshock is another really good one. The second was more like 1.5 but I still enjoy the single player. Games I'd say Fallout 3 and New Vegas were awesome.
Thanks for resurrecting it! haha! How is banished? I was looking at that but kind of dismissed it because it looked like a super-typical city builder, despite how uniquely it was billed. I've recently bought into Deliverance on kickstarter. They're selling line is, "Dungeons. No Dragons." mmm. I think Caesar 2 was pretty good, Caesar 3 was alright but not much of an improvement. I think that the structure of 2 was better, but the graphics of 3 was better. If that makes sense. I'd suggest trying Rome 2. It's not so much on the city management, but combat is fun, wide, and in depth.
Banished is more a cruel survival game rather than a village builder and far more complex than say Rimworld. I didn't know anything about deliverance , thank you for enlightening me ! if it plays anything like original mount&blade i am sold. I also agree that Caesar 2 was superior to 3 .
I'm not familiar with Rimworld, but I like the idea of a survival game better than a city builder. Yeah the people making Deliverance are apparently a skilled crew who have done some big name games, and they're billing this game as a mix of Mount and Blade, Skyrim, and some other game, but there won't be any real 'leadership' like there was in Mountainblade, it likes like it'll be more like Skyrim in that sense, but apparently it'll be a bit like War of the Roses (made by Paradox Interactive based off the M&B engine, after they bought it out), in that you can attack/block from different angles and what not, and the game is supposed to be very responsive. The part I don't like about it is that it seems that it's meant to be so competitive that it becomes like a Bushido melee, where in major fights it's a lot of 1v1, not much massive combat. I kind of like those massive scenes that make you feel like a total boss.
Holy (*)(*)(*)(*)! That Deliverance game looks amazing. I wonder if he used to work on Mount and Blade and just didn't like the direction that MB 2 was going.
Skyrim is bad news , i hope that this is a true cRPG and not a combat only action adventure . Freaking casuals are worst than islamists .
1 is ok. There are some great stuff, but there is some real weak parts. Mostly landing on planets and driving around in your 6x6 little jeep thing. At first it's neat (landing on planets and exploring, awesome), then you realize all the planets are generally barren landscapes (with the exception of a couple of planets that are actual levels, but the balance is like 3 level planets to like 20 barren ones). The 2nd is my favorite, more characters to choose from when leaving the ship; rather then landing on the planets that aren't actual levels, you just scan them for minerals which is a bit better but still kinda dull. The story is fun and the fighting mechanics are vastly improved from the 1st. The 3rd (for me) was a step down from 2 (for me) in that you only get 4 character slots (5 if you get the DLC or preorder), but I liked the 'building your fleet' idea for a final battle. I did like the ending though, as it perfectly encapsulates the whole series concept of good/neutral/evil choice system.
I might, just for fun and practice. But, I was focusing on the economic aspects. I am able to run some scenarios with a zero tax rate, with all revenue coming from trade. Isn't Socialism bailing out Capitalism, wonderful.
it's still in development, but you should check out the combat preview. For those who've never heard of it, check out the second video. It's a game that is meant to be a realistic medieval rpg, with no magic or dragons or anything of that sort. [video=youtube;PYD-Aq52KyQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYD-Aq52KyQ[/video] [video=youtube;cxzUJ93BdJM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxzUJ93BdJM[/video]
well it tends to work like that when you have a game that has zero allowance for actual free market. Most of these types of games are 'kind of' like that. The exception is that in most of the Total War games low taxes makes the 'region wealth' and population grow significantly faster, which of course increases your income.
From what I've heard their crew worked on Dark Souls, Mafia, Mafia 2, ArmA, Operation Flashpoint, Crysis 3, and Forza Horizon. It doesn't look like they've ever worked on a real medieval game, but I'm impressed so far with what they've put out. I put in $40 on kickstarter and will be playing the beta and alpha.
i was talking about the socialism v. capitalism part. Most games are like that, as they don't really allow for free market. Heck, in Caesar 3 even your trade is entirely state run! But yeah, I always do the same thing in games like Zeus and Caesar. The taxes are never enough in those games to run diddly. But yeah, Rome 2 has a fun campaign and really fun battles.
If I hand't already paid out for the collectors edition of TES Online I might kickstarter that as well (is that a verb now?)
haha, seems like a verb. But I'd suggest getting in on it. TES Online looks good but - and this is just me personally - all online games seem to be letdowns. They feel far too much the same, where the game just becomes a tedious grind. For online games, I prefer stuff like war of the roses, where someone who is on their first day playing the game can reasonable kill someone who has a thousand hours. But yeah, I'd suggest getting on Deliverance. I think you can get the final release digital version for $24, if you buy it now.
For the purposes of the scenarios I have been playing, it is merely about where revenue is coming from; taxation versus trade. Trading is not an absolute requirement, but the alternative is taxation. Also, by trading in those scenarios it is acknowledged that rights in private property are being respected, labor is being paid and money is being circulated in that economy. In some scenarios, I have achieved full employment with zero percent taxation, while running massive provincial surpluses. It makes investing in the general welfare of that province simpler, and earns points toward a rating system. The point is that when Socialism can bailout Capitalism in that manner, promoting the general welfare would be simpler with a petty cash fund for that purpose.
Lol, I wouldn't suggest pulling a game as any kind of proof. Besides, the point of this thread isn't to push a political agenda. The point I made on trade is, again, that it's not private trade in those games.. The workers all work for the government, it sets exports and imports, and imports are used for government purposes. I'm mostly thinking again of Zeus and Caesar 3 and the like. If you want to take a look at something with a more balanced look, try Democracy 3. I like the game. Once you get your policies passed there's not much more to the game but to see the effects. In that game I prefer policies that strengthen business, which is where the revenues come for whatever public purposes. Capitalism 1 and 2 are older games and still don't get the free market quite right, but they get closer than most games. It's actually pretty hard for a game to simulate a real free market. And I'm not really a huge fan of capitalism 2, but it's worth a go. It's even been used by some business professors as a teaching aid.
I'd actually recommend Mass Effect. It felt a lot like Knights of the Old Republic. I got the original just the other day hoping to relive the old times, but it won't work on Windows 7.
eh, 2 didn't have half the story or 'feel' of 1. It had better graphics and performance and all, but what made that game great was the story and interplay between yourself and other characters. I mean, you actually ended up liking characters, and felt bad when you had to kill some of your crew.
I was the light side when I played 1 but I don't know, I actually liked the story to 2 better. Maybe it had to do with finding out that so many people were jdi if you developed their characters.
