Can hate win an election?

Disgusting? If you really want to see disgusting, take a long, hard look at Trump.

 

My "rant" has no hate. I don't hate Trump or anyone else. I simply see Trump for what he is, & that is NOT Presidential material. Everything I said in my former post is true. Sorry you have to demean it instead of seeing its validity.

 

To him...anything short of fawning praise heaped on Trump is "hate"

 

Your post here would make sense if we lived in a society where every individual was responsible for his/her own every need. But we don't. We live in a society highly interdependent on each other for most of the things we need or use in our daily lives. Any interdependent society functions better when every member of that society attains a basic level of stability in their lives. Helping each other to attain that basic level pays off by improving the lives of everyone. It's a shared society rather than one where it's everyone for themselves, as in Capitalism. I understand the logic behind your world view. I simply disagree with it.

 

Trump ran on a message of love for the country. For those who hate this country, that is a message of hate.

Republicans are the party of love. We love our God, our families, our country and our neighbors. We love our freedom, our right to free speech and the right to bear arms. We love children and their right to life. We love our healthcare and our right to privacy. We love our healthcare providers. We love our freedom to choose our healthcare providers. We love cheap energy. We love our all American built SUV's and cars.

 

How do you feel about "the other"?

Ya know...

Liberals
Progressives
Democrats
Blacks
Latinos
Muslims
Gays
Transgenders
Chinese

Pretty much anyone not you

Not a lot of "love" there...is there?

 

I understand. Extremism applied to everything. It's a hard way to live. Glad I don't do that. Glad most of us don't do that.

 

What part of "millions of people agreed with my statement" did you not understand?

Trump got 62 million votes, hence 62 million people agreed with my statement that you called non-sense.

 

Heck of an assumption on your part.

Well this video alone is a spontaneous Trump rally in Beverly Hills California and I see blacks, Hispanics, gays and Asians.



PS I'm Mexican American.

 

Tell me about the "love" you have for
Liberals
Progressives
Democrats
Blacks
Latinos
Muslims
Gays
Transgenders
Chinese

 

The extremes on BOTH sides seem to be getting worse with each election cycle.

 

We'll see, if Biden gets elected then you and your side can show their true colors. To paraphrase: If the right ever gets to the point where it can discuss an issue without trashing Biden/Harris as a person and insulting their supporters to set the stage, anything is possible. We may find out sooner than later. I am afraid that you are not going to like what you'll see in terms of behavior from your side, or you'll brush it under the rug as "they did it first". We've seen it with the way Obama and the Clintons were treated in the past. Why would it be any different now?

 

Exactly right. He is being disingenuous if he believes the Right didn't trash Clinton and Obama ad nauseam.
The bottom line is...there are countless on the Right who trash Dem politicians just as there are countless on the Left who trash Repub politicians. That is a fact.

 

I wrote that post, & I will tell you, as I've stated before, I have no "hatred" toward Trump or anyone else. I care about America & Americans, but I'm genuinely concerned about the damage Trump is doing to my America, & I feel the need to express my concerns. Your interpretation of my post is wrong.

 

Extramarital affair
Harris has been married to her husband, attorney Douglas Emhoff, since 2014. However, articles and memes online state that years prior, Harris had an extramarital affair with former San Francisco Mayor and California Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, with some people claiming that Harris' political success was achieved by being Brown's "mistress"


https://www.hngn.com/articles/23124...-extramarital-affair-willie-brown-boosted.htm

 

Criticizing is fine and even hate is a natural human emotion but running a candidate for president based purely on hate crosses a line.

 

Not only a hate filled rant but uses language of genocide from recent tribal conflict in Africa.
Really can't get much worse than this folks.
Vote Trump!

 

Which has nothing to do with democrats running what amounts to a generic candidate based purely on Trump hate.
This tactic could work but it would be a sad day for America if an unqualified senile old man becomes president based on hate.

 

Sorry you can't see your hate filled rant is nothing more than your personal hateful opinion of another human being.

 

Worst said about Biden is he's suffering frim dementia which is painfully obvious and natural for someone of his age and that he's a corrupt politician which has been proven with the Hunter emails.
This commentary is a far cry from the lengthy unsubstantiated hateful diatribes about Trumps personhood unleashed by foaming at the mouth democrats.

 

I certainly agree that the perception of being a success is usually very complex in appearance to almost everyone. Perception- or what we think we see.
What if success was actually a 3 piece jigsaw puzzle, but the box given you had 10,000 pieces in it? IF you knew that, things change. The challenge would not be to solve the massively complex puzzle- but to identify and discard the 9997 pieces that had nothing to do with the picture.

I've been a student of nature, for a very long time now. If fact, nature became my higher power, the life guide, because once I discovered how to see it and learn from it, everything it taught me worked. Yes, things are complex and complicated- and that sure as hell makes life difficult. However, the vast majority of that are man-made complications- which are still, in the end- governed by the laws of nature. The terms stupidity or laziness may be offensive, but not irrelevant. And laziness is far more an issue than stupidity, in part because lazy people tend not to be eager in the pursuit of knowledge and understanding. I know a lot of people who are certainly intelligent and capable- but simply don't have enough motivation to do something to improve themselves today. Not that they don't like the idea, but maybe later. Procrastination, that never ends. The result of not being able to learn and not being willing to learn are the same, and both keep you poor. That is, under all circumstances- a choice the individual makes.

Nature has basic rules for all living things. Simple rules, and every living thing (except man) comes to understand them early on. They work consistently. That's why millions of species have thrived for millions of years without any of the crap we have invented trying to make ourselves into a viable, harmonious society. Unlike our failure, nature has succeeded not only without the special forces of laws and religions and politics, but without using up the earths natural resources or poisoning the planet. Nature taught me what society seems to have great difficulty accepting, and as a result- cannot benefit from. I have, and I've tried to share this knowledge freely with anyone willing to learn. Perhaps the greatest sadness of my life is that I know what millions of people desperately need, but their minds are so cluttered with trash they aren't able to see it or learn it. They simply can't figure out the picture- it just doesn't come together, and they think it's impossible.

Now what role you wish to play in life is the choice of the individual. While I've learned to be successful in business, I also learned that I'm not suited to running a large company- I don't like the complexity. Thus, I made a transition based on a model for a small business, with a minimum of employees, a minimum of risk, and a maximum margin of profit. So I have what I want; I consider myself successful in all ways, and I;m a contented, happy person. I know that everyone does have something of value that will work for them, and they have the same potential. Not to be what I am, but to be all that they are. Makes no difference if it works for me- but important it work for them. A major challenge of life is to find what you have, and make the most of it. That requires you think on your own, not be shaped by the pressures of society. I have never pursued wealth, either- I have pursed success in whatever I undertake. Wealth is a fringe benefit of success for me- and I believe for the bulk of successful people.

A point I used to use in class was that all of us want the same three things in life. Those are- Love, Happiness and Success. Money is not on the list, although many will assume that money and success are the same, but they are not. The catch is that each of us define these things differently- and in many cases, the definitions are so flawed that they insure we won't succeed. This too is a choice; of what you want to believe, of what you want to learn of what emotional price you will pay to do so.

Most importantly, achievement of these things only happens when the individual has mastered himself, has come to the point he knows who he is without doubt. How many people do you know who you believe have accomplished that? That is genuine success, because it opens the doors to everything else. I know that you cannot give anyone that. You can stand in the way of it, confuse them regarding it, but you cannot do it for them. Better we do not try, because in their own way- they are working on it.

What's important about all this is that the factors that matter- the truths that can make this possible- are not complicated at all. They are in direct conflict with what nearly everybody thinks they know- and therein is the complexity. Not learning what works... but throwing out the trash that makes it impossible to understand what works.

I've lived by three basic rules for about 40 years now. Those rules are fundamental principles. They don't change. They tell me what the right choices are in all the variable questions and rules I encounter in life, which means I can keep everything I need to know on the back of a business card. That's how complicated things really are- that is, after you take out the trash, and learn to keep it out.
The most important thing is to learn is how to throw out the trash. When that's done- the picture will solve itself.

 

Why don't you tell me about your need to divide people up by their race or other status or class?

RACIST MUCH?

 

You brought up Hitler in a thread where Hitlerite comparisons might not profit your case. Don't walk away now that your own analogy has been logically extended. People had a right to hate a man who engaged in crass power grabs, scapegoated minority groups and encouraged the majority to first discriminate and marginalize them, then murder them. Hate fueled resistance movements full of people, who saw loved ones arrested, tortured, starved and crushed, fed larger movements all across Europe that led to efforts to stop the genocide, stop arrests, impede the Nazi police and army and frustrate an occupying power from consolidating. . Hate does a lot when focused on the right target and the right set of tactics.

. You made the man name Trump President, and enabled him to divide this nation and use hatred as his own tool for control. Stop whining and own that political animosity you fomented by doing so, will follow for a long time now that he is losing power

 

There has always been political animosity. It differs in the change in the level of vitriol and the percentage of people acting hostile has certainly increased, and of course substantially over past administrations.
I think no matter what, there will always be extremists, of course. When they surpass nuisance level and begin to become the norm, it's time for concern. You can keep score, and I have the left far ahead- but we would all be better off if that wasn't the focus or the game.

 

So?