Can we Asylum Kim Jung Un?

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I just had an idea of dealing with Kim Jung Un. We give him asylum in the USA. Give him his own guarded compound and monthly dollar amount income. Then leave him alone to do what he wants within the boundary of his compound.

    It would put an end to the NK regime once and for all and then the Koreas could unite.

    Seriously I think we could put an end to more dictatorships with honey than with vinegar. I may be hopelessly naïve, but that's what I think.

    Can we Asylum Kim Jung Un?
     
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    China could do the same, as could a slew of other countries. The problem is that it would be like granting Asylum to Hitler. Especially when we start finding out what has really been going on over there.
     
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    Just give him a 7/11 somewhere
     
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    I like that you are thinking "out of the box", bu the REAL problem is the acceptance of communism in the world - a completely unacceptable system. Cuba, etc. as well. Kim is not the problem, people accepting communism over democracy is the problem. Fidel Castro was not THAT much better than Kim - Fidel, the monster, even had about 7000 POLITICAL prisoners killed - they probably were demanding such outrageous things as "the right to vote", and to form a labor union, and the most ridiculous of all "the right to emigrate". :)
     
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    If a young girl's (say) brother tries to form, say, a labor union or get the right to vote, Kim puts her (it's not her fault even!), AND HER ENTIRE family in a Nazi-like prison camp. She will likely die before she's 30 years old due to malnutrition and rape, etc. Kim is almost as bad as the god of the bible.
     
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    Communists want POWER over others, so your plan is well intended, but yes, I'm afraid, "naive". Not sure I have a BETTER plan, however.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, I guess they wouldn't treat their staff right.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I would have given asylum to Hitler if it ended WW2 faster. Maybe. o_O
     
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    Wanted upkeep staff, must be able to withstand horrible abuse from Boss. Prior experience preferred, salary $100000 a year.
     
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    Oh, he's going to get an asylum.

    But he'll be 6 feet under it...
     
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    Military leaders only accept asylum when they are defeated. See: Napoleon after the Battle of Waterloo, etc. Deposing Kim Jong likely means enabling a new Color Revolution. Have our CIA spies go into NK on travel visas or something, build a resistance army that would *conveniently* be backed by US weapons, and whatever happens, happens :D
     
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    That won't work. The Dear Leader requires a group of people to fawn over him, and naturally he needs to keep those people in the dark as to what's going on in the rest of the world, lest they begin to think he might not be representing things as they really are.

    No, you want to get Kim Jung Un out of the way? Start making plans to put nuclear weapons in Japan and South Korea. The Chinese would take note of that, and they would do what they can to prevent that from happening. If we say those weapons wouldn't be needed if Kim was removed, I believe they'd move appropriately. Until they do, we're pissin' in the wind.
     
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    Change 'asylum' to 'assasinate'
     
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    Or a Burger King franchise.
     
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    Maybe we can use him to our "Right" advantage we could offer a trade, Trump for Lil Kim, and let the leftist make the choice!
     
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    We should put kim and trump on Celebrity Deathmatch and let them duke it out on tv.
     
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    Kim has all the wealth he wants now

    He eats well and can have a new woman delivered to him as often as he wants
     
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    You are assuming Kim is in power.

    I highly doubt he is, the military elitists run that nation now.

    I have a feeling that Kim is nothing more than a figurehead.
     
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    Or possibly a sort of 911 where he is....
     
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    He obviously knows food. He could open a "Crazy Dictator" Korean restaurant in LA. I'll buy him an LA Dodger t-shirt and a "Make America Great Again" cap.
     
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    I think our overall approach to Kim is failing to pay attention to a lot of precedent. We have been tolerating, placating and appeasing what amount to an totally self-indulgent egotistical sadist gangster for years- and before that, to his father and grandfather, each worse than the prior one. We have not even held the line, it has steadily worsened.

    The question is, how long do you let such a thing go before you realize that you must destroy it? Time here is measured in the costs of nuclear expansion, meaning the number of potential deaths jumps in increments of hundreds of thousands.

    In WW I, we stopped Germany and destroyed it's war machine, at huge cost. In the surrender, terms wisely included that Germany would not re-arm, would not rebuild an air force. Yet as Hitler came to power, he built what quickly became the world's most powerful air force with the best technology, in about 5 years- and was able to do most of it secretly. When the world found out about this violation of the terms of surrender- they did nothing. As Hitler ranted about the jews and degraded the humanity of half the world, the rest of the world did nothing. When he began to act and take neighboring countries, they hoped if they did nothing, he would stop. The cost of stopping them again was even greater in WWII than the "war to end all wars" that we had fought only 20 years before with the same nation. How might history be different if we had paid more attention and acted decisively when the
    terms of surrender were broken?

    Surely- we can learn something from that, and realize that no matter how much you want to live in peace, there are those who will destroy you if you will allow it- by doing nothing. Kim Jong-un in such a person. However instead of allowing him to build an air force- we have allowed him to built nuclear weapons and ICBM's. What we have done is to exponentially raise the price of exterminating this cancer, but in no way have we diminished the need to do it.

    If we had decisively acted to crush that nuclear ambition 25 years ago, we wouldn't be faced with a much larger threat today- but we did nothing. We talked, we negotiated- but we did not act. IF we do not act today- in the future, things will only be worse. How much worse and how soon, we don't know... but we have a mentality in Kim Jong that is much like that of Hitler. Ask yourself when Hitler would have stopped and became peaceful if he had not been destroyed by the allied forces. Same problem here- Kim will cease to be a threat when Kim ceases to be.

    The only dictators that seek a place of safe exile are the ones who are already defeated and running for their lives. Kim was raised from birth in this dictatorial power mindset, he lives and feeds on the power over others and he will remain as single minded as Hitler to the day he dies. It is not a question of if, but when he and the dynasty of dictatorship he oversees will be destroyed. The world hasn't made this necessary- Kim has.

    As Norman Schwarzkopf said- “I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting.” ...
     
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