Can you name benefits of diversity?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    -you get to experience different cultures of food.

    -you get to experience different cultures of people.

    -you get to experience different types of women. :)
     
  2. rayznack

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    No. Just make comparisons between the aggregates.
     
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    What's the point?
     
  4. rayznack

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    It addresses assimilation problems, and is key information in deciding future policy regarding immigration, etc.
     
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    Are you calling all Democrats brain dead?
     
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    The same harms to America occur from legal immigrants as from illegal ones, with the one exception that they are at least minimally vetted, according to their crime history, if any.
     
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    Ah, yes the marvelous experience of getting in a taxicab and trying to tell the driver (who speaks little English), he's going the wrong way (because he couldn't understand a word of what you told him to begin with). And oh of course, there's the guy from Egypt who shows up at your wedding reception with his 10 wives (all of then under 12 years old), and all wearing niqabs, and he's carrying a small whip, in case they do something offensive to him (like showing their faces). Yup, different types of women all right. Different cultures. And don't forget the Mexican guy whose car comes plowing threw the reception center's glass doors (He never drove a car before coming to the US, and can't read road signs) As for the different cultures of food, let's skip that part. I haven't had dinner yet (and still have a decent appetite). :roll:
     
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    There was a benefit during the industrial revolution. Not now. Too many looking for handouts and demanding imagined rights. Illegals destroy this country. Our immigration system does not need reforming, it only needs enforcing.
     
  9. rayznack

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    I'm referring to inter-racial and faith diversity. I have no idea what inter-racial immigration occurred during the industrial revolution that was beneficial to which you speak.
     
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    the chinese immigrants helped, the catholics helped.
     
  11. rayznack

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    The Catholics helped...who?

    Americans? I consider Catholics to be Christian and the United States has historically been a Christian majority nation; so that unspecific mention is hardly 'inter-faith'.

    Interestingly, but I've heard from a Norwegian that Chinese are creating gangs and behaving similarly to many non-White groups in White majority nations. Though, I'll grant that is exceptional and Chinese are generally more productive (but really, I'm hardly the type to not give East Asians credit for their high intelligence and lower anti-social behavior).
     
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    It shows a clear lack of central planning on the part of many governments, to not establish "colonias" to specialize in products that can be taxed as a form of Commerce, along with building aqueducts and roads.
     
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    Diversity of what? I have no problem with a diversity of talents, or diversity of people.

    I do have a problem with a diversity of culture. That is usually bad. Immigrants with similar cultures, are typically good.

    When you look around the world, the best, stable societies, are those with homogenous cultures. Sweden, Norway, Switzerland. Very homogenous.

    That said, it assumes we have a culture worth keeping. We have lost that culture here in the US. Our culture now is so self-centered, so spoiled and bratish, so lazy and entitlement driving, that perhaps importing a culture of people still willing to work for their future, still grateful for what they have, still looking to improve things for everyone instead of only themselves, and not just on what they can suck out of government programs, and Obama Care....... That may actually be beneficial.
     
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    Food...
     
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    The US is generally a protestant Christian historically speaking. Catholic is not a Bible based Christian belief system. Just read Matthew 23:9 which says "And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.". Pope, means.... Father in the Greek. That's why you call the Catholic church leader "Father so and so". Spiritually speaking, calling a man on earth 'father', is forbidden by the Bible. And there are hundreds of other examples.

    This is why Protestant Christians typically do not consider Catholics to be "Christian" in the Biblical sense. So when you meet people who talk in this fashion, this is why.

    That said.... It makes no difference now, as far as the US is concerned, because Christians are not Christians here. They are simply pagans, with a cross necklace.

    Whatever America used to be in times past, it is no more. Obama said it best: "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation"

    And at least this one time, he's right. Christians don't act, live, or follow Christian belief at all. So whatever difference there was between Catholic, and Christian America of the past, it is all rendered irrelevant today.

    Aside from putting their butt in a pew at a building with a cross on top, American "Christians" very rarely live any differently than anyone else. There are a few real believers out there, but the vast majority are fake, and might as well be Catholic, or Buddhist, or anything else, since they live like anything else.
     
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    I came up with another reason. Immigrant wives. Now in other places in the world, this may not be a huge deal. But here in America, girls are so spoiled, and such brats, that nothing is enough for them. You give them everything you have, and they just demand more. And then they divorce you. Or if you are not married, she'll find another boyfriend, and take the car you jointly purchased and everything she can, and ditch you.

    You get yourself an immigrant wife, and she'll love you no matter what you make. You could earn a piddly $20,000 a year, and she'll think she's living in a royal palace. And most will never leave you. They'll be happy with whatever you can do.

    I've met several men with immigrant wives, and they are some of the happiest married couples you could ever meet. I was talking with one, and asked her about divorce, and she looked me in the eye and said "we just don't do that where I'm from. You marry, and you work it out, and you love each other. There is no divorce"

    That's the exact opposite of American girls. Divorce is the default option here. If you have a problem, you don't work it out, you just demand he fix it, and if he doesn't you leave.

    I met a girl that was planning for her divorce, before she even got married. Told me about how she had money saved in a private bank account her future husband didn't know about. That way when they divorce, he won't know she has money.

    So yes, there is a benefit to immigrants. (and some are extremely beautiful too)
     
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    they helped themselves, and america.

    Catholics are christians, no discussion. But there was a very strong anti-catholic sentiment in the US during the times when lots of catholics moved there, so it's by all means relevant.

    I've never heard about any chinese gang. Chinese people are way to short to be intimidating anyways (lol, jk) but the karate might scare some. Anyways, No, the chinese are generally a bit richer and better educated as a group, even when compared to whites.
     
  18. rayznack

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    I'm definitely aware of the stats on race, education, criminality and wealth in the United States.

    I consider Catholics to be Christian too, so I don't think your example is perfect; especially since anti-Catholic sentiment was never as hysteric as some claim.

    I couldn't find anything about Chinese gangs in Norway, but there are Chinese and Korean street gangs in the United States:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs_in_the_United_States#Asian_American

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullerton_Boys
     
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    Oh , it was hysteric alright. People really didn't like catholics back then.

    Well, there's always some gangs. There's white gangs too. Doesn't say anything though.
     
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    There's a certain irony in your post - on the one hand you praise immigrant wives. But then you condemn political lefties even though they are responsible for immigrants ladies remaining here. If the delusional righties could have their way, ours would be a ethnically/racially segregated society and those ladies you praise would all be sent back home to poverty and misery.

    :roflol:
     
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    Personally I see very little wrong with diversity, but it has to come naturally, it cannot be forced. We're all human, we all have some sort of biases based upon our morals and our code of life, in large part acquired through life experience. Forcing people to accept the behaviors of others that come with forced diversity is not going to solve any problems and make life better for anyone, nor increase true diversity. We become accepting of others (that are different, in whatever way) through experiences in life and seeing the merits of people as individuals first.
     
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    I agree. That is why I am against anything that favors one race over another, such as diversity job fairs, affirmative action, scholarships based on color, etc.
     
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    Depends on how diversity is defined. It diversity equals forced equal outcome....Not good.
     
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    spoken like a true lib racist
     
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    "You're intolerant of my intolerance!" The argument from the right for all of their shenanigans. Tell me that's not ridiculous sounding.
     

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