Canadian Trustee who wants no nudity at Gay Pride is targeted

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    And for the 5th time- since people seem to have a really hard time understanding my position:

    o recap

    Toronto has a Gay Pride Parade.
    Some people get nude during the parade
    A trustee suggested that police enforce Toronto's anti-nudity ordinances
    Some people criticized him for his stance.

    That is the situation in Toronto.

    And here is my position:
    a) I don't have an objection to Pride Parades
    b) I think that local municipalities can and should decide on how to enforce their own nudity laws
    c) I don't think that anyone has the 'right' to be nude in public- but I also don't think that nudity in and of itself is offensive.
    d) I support the right of this trustee to his opinion
    e) I also support the right of those who disagree with him to their opinion.
    f) Nudity in a parade is not an exclusively 'gay' thing- people get nude.
    g) The objection appears to be that there is nudity at a gay parade- not that there is a parade with nudity.
     
  2. JavisBeason

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    do you really need to be reminded with pictures, what goes on at a gay pride parade? We aren't talking about walking naked... simulated sex... nudity, phalic representations...


    if you have a parade during "primetime" it's so you can expose the kids that come to parades to simulated gay sex in order to normalize the deviant behavior. Hitler youth of the 2000-teens are called the gay youth. Propaganda at it's finest

    I'm concerned with parents who are trapped by parade routes, or gay scout masters telling parents "and we'll finish with a parade" while neglecting to tell them its a simulated sex content parade. A scout master saying "the parade starts at 9pm" will raise flags and give parents a warning as to what kind of parade they are allowing their kids to goto. but a "parade at 9am" sounds normal.

    a firecracker won't try to convince my son to run away and have sex with him at 33 y.o. either.... so that's a failed analogy
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    no, This thread was about the death threats he received from homonazis, who insisted on dangling their junk in your childs face.
     
  4. JavisBeason

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    I notice you have no objections to the trustee getting death threats for his opinion in e.
     
  5. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    this....


    sfgeoff says he supports citizens voicing their disapproval of the trustee wanting police to enforce anti-nudity.... I suppose he's ok with that voicing to also include death threats because he didn't denounce it in his manifesto

    He said he supports gays having simulated gay sex in front of kids.... I wonder why? What is the end game of the agenda..... legalizing NAMBLA type activities....?
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    Unlike yourself- I have actually been to a gay pride parade- multiple ones actually. I have seen many nude men and women at the parades- though the vast majority of people in the parade- and watching the parade are fully clothed.

    Unlike yourself- I have actually been to gay pride parades, and so I am very aware that no child sees any nudity in the parade without either parental approval, or parental neglect- nobody 'accidentally' watches one of these parades-they are too crowded for that.

    if you have a parade during "primetime" it's so you can expose the kids that come to parades to simulated gay sex in order to normalize the deviant behavior. Hitler youth of the 2000-teens are called the gay youth. Propaganda at it's finest

    You seem obsessed with making this claim- apparently you believe that a parade's only purpose is to propagandize children.

    But you do have one thing right- Pride Parades are about proclaiming that there is nothing deviant about men loving men or women loving women.

    That is why one of the most important part of every Pride Parade are the proud "Parents of Gays and Lesbians"- marching to acknowledge that they accept and love their children.
     
  7. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Well, I can only assume they want to encourage children to accept sodomy.
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    The toronto parade said they want to expose kids to simulated sex

    in your gay pride... you can't verify that's not what THIS gay pride parade is trying. After all, people are willing to death threat people who try and prevent a gay simulated sex act in front of kids in Toronto



    Learn from history..... Hitler youth proves if you expose a child to an idea, no matter how bad or deviant... they will grow up thinking that's "normal" and will vote that way in the future
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    I notice that for the umpteenth time there is a claim of death threats with absolutely no back up for that claim.

    How many times have I challenged you now in this thread to back up that claim- why lets count- shall we?

    5/7/14- #27
    SFJEFF
    What death threats?
    So, I looked at the OP- no death threats there.

    I looked at Sam's website(the trustee)- no death threats there.

    I did a google search- didn't find any death threats there either.

    I am not saying that someone couldn't have made a death threat against this trustee- people do stupid things all the time- but I can't find actual source that says that this happened.

    So the next time any of you want to talk about the homosexuals making death threats to Sam Sotiropoulos because of his position on nudity- please go ahead and give the source of that claim.


    5/9/14
    JavisBeason#323
    death threats and name calling when a trustee suggests gays keep the clothes on.....
    SFJEFF #324
    What 'death threats"?
    #326
    I would just like to see where this claim came from that you are so willing to repeat?
    I am not saying you made it up.......I am just saying that it would look like that if you can't provide a source.

    So- at least 4 times now you have been challenged to provide something to support your claim- and you have been unwilling- or unable to back it up.

    So why do you keep making the claim?
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    Seriously- why do you keep lying? I get rather tired of your lies.

    My post #276 dated 5/7/14


    First of all I have no tolerance for 'death threats' by anyone- if death threats are being made, the persons making them should be prosecuted.

    But I see nothing about death threats- I see criticism on Twitter and angry phone calls- to a public servant. Is he supposed to be free from criticism?

    People who make death threats for any reason are stupid criminals who should be prosecuted. I just haven't seen any evidence that that happened.


    Javid:
    He said he supports gays having simulated gay sex in front of kids..

    Flat out lie. Bald faced yellow bellied lie. I never said any such thing. You are lying. Clearly, obviously, lying.

    Why do you feel a need to lie to further your anti-gay agenda?

    Are you that desperate to encourage discrimination against homosexuals?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Prove it. Show where 'the toronto parade' said that.

    Or are you just lying?
     
  11. JavisBeason

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    >>>Off Topic Removed<<<

    . I'm just glad that this trustee had the bravery to stand up for what''s right and protect the kids in Toronto, despite the death threats

    ModEdit - Post not Poster
     
  12. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    thats cause the story in the op has changed. If you arrived at the party earlier, youd know.
     
  13. SFJEFF

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    What I see are two posters making up a claim about death threats.

    I say 'making up' because in over a week, and despite multiple requests, no one has actually demonstrated that there were any claims of death threats- other than by you two.

    So what I see are two posters making up a claim about death threats.

    And thats it.
     
  14. BestViewedWithCable

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    Thats because the story in the OP has changed. Dont blame me, you should have read it months ago.

    It was posted in February.
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    What I see are two posters making up a claim about death threats.

    I say 'making up' because in over a week, and despite multiple requests, no one has actually demonstrated that there were any claims of death threats- other than by you two.

    So what I see are two posters making up a claim about death threats.

    And thats it.
     
  16. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    go get in your time machine, go back to feburary 10th, and read the op.
     
  17. JavisBeason

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    no no.... the entire "if I don't read it, it didn't happen" mentality is in effect here....
     
  18. SFJEFF

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    Luckily there is a time machine when it comes to the internet
    http://web.archive.org/web/20140214...-parade-target-of-tdsb-trustees-twitter-rant/

    Not one word about a death threat.

    Matter of fact- there was no mention of 'death threats' in this thread in February....or March.....or April.....not until May 7 when Javis made this claim:

    but when a Canadian Trustee tries to make sure that the adult themed version of the gay pride parade not occur at the time posted.... he gets death threats....

    That appears to be a lie now.

    Since it wasn't in the original article- as you claimed- and no one has ever found any mention of such threats- other than by you and Javis.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And just since people seem to get confused about my stance- I will post it again.
     
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    That post is from the 13th of feburary, not the tenth, keep going back in time.
     
  20. SFJEFF

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    2/13/14 is the date of the actual editorial quoted by Sec on 2/20/14.

    If you have an article from February 10- 3 days before the article that Sec quoted was posted- feel free to share with us.

    Because so far it looks like something that Javis made up in May and that you just parroted- since neither you or he, in your quotes mention it until May.

    Especially since the tweet that was quoted

    One of the most divisive influences in Canada today is #homosexism it's disseminators are maliciously rabid. #TDSB #TOpoli #ONpoli #CDNpoli
    7:57 AM - 13 Feb 2014
     
  21. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Tell you what why don't YOU make a thread about it, perhaps even get you pal sec to join in .. but no of course that won't happen as it isn't a gay parade.
     
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    can it be any other parade without naked people such as the one shown, if the answer is yes then why target just gay parades?

    This guy has every right in the world to state his opinion on the nudity at the parade, just as others have every right to answer his opinion with an opposing one.

    The only pushback I see is when the parade doesn't align with your opinion.
     
  23. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    You keep posting this and yet have failed to provide a single link to ANY death threats received, please do so or are you just a liar?
     
  24. sec

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    please discuss the topic, not the poster
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Funny that, you didn't ask the same of the poster who discussed me and not the post .. bias, no surely not.
     

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