Capitol is on lockdown as pro-Trump demonstrators try to break into the building

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    For brevity I'm just going to answer with an emoji in future.
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  2. Ddyad

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    Why would any ordinary American, as opposed to political appointees, not want to see public due process hearings into sworn charges of election rigging?

    Only those who support a rigged election to beat Trump and who believe the election was rigged and that Giuliani and the Trump team would be vindicated by the hearings have any excuse for defending the lack of even one due process fact hearing.

    You should be very upset that the DP attack dogs in the House or the judges did not expose the Trump team for suborning perjury in early November. But you are not.
    I find that very odd. ;-)
     
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    I see. ;-)
     
  4. dairyair

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    I am sure most every ordinary American would. And every judge likely would also.
    But trump hand picked judges said not enough evidence. Hear say is not evidence.
    Conservative State Supreme Courts have said, not enough evidence.

    Heck, you won't provide evidence right here for any one to make a judgement on. Why not?
    Show us this evidence that isn't being heard.

    I am upset, at people making baseless claims. Back up the claims.
     
  5. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    I agree Kyle Rittenhouse is a serious criminal. Defended by unhinged (soon to be disbarred) Lin Wood.
     
  6. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Rittenhouse videos totally exonerate him. That was pure Self Defense.

    What is telling is that when you shoot at BLM / ANTIFA members Kyle hit a pedophile, a rapist, and a felon. When they fired into a QANON crowd, they hit a veteran and mother.
     
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  8. liberalminority

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    secret service are duly sworn law enforcement, they are not black lives matter nor anti fascist.
     
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  9. Ddyad

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    LOL! Do you deny that the Trump team has submitted the sworn statements from witnesses claiming to have seen massive election fraud? ;

    If you believe those statements are false you must also believe that there is ample evidence for a full due process fact hearing into the misconduct of the Trump team.
    But for some reason you, like the DP House and the rest of the political class have had no interest in investigating the election for any reason.
    The whole world knows why. ;-)
     
  10. dairyair

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    OMG, I just told you in the post you responded to, hearsay is not evidence.
    A sworn statement is nothing more than hearsay.

    Why do you think tRUMP judges said they're not worthy of a hearing. Evidence is needed, not hearsay.

    Now, do you have evidence or not? Something a tRUMP appointed Judge will listen to? I don't think so, if you do, you better join his legal team.
     
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  11. liberalminority

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    there are credible claims of election fraud, judges do not always uphold the constitution nor democracy.

    in this case they did not even do the courtesy of due process.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uphold_Democracy
     
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  12. dairyair

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    There are incredible claims of a flat earth also. What should we do about that?

    trump hand picked judges said provide some actual proof. William Barr, said, not enough fraud evidence to change any election results.(hand Picked trump guy).
    Christopher Krebs, trump hand picked security chief, most secure election in USA history.

    So, no one, has offered up evidence, just hearsay. And trump top hand picked people state, not enough fraud. PERIOD.

    Due process was more than given.
     
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    LOL! Then why didn't the DP House expose Giuliani and the Trump team for trying to rig the election in early November?
    Do you think The Schiff/Nadler are just too shy to expose the Trump team for election fraud? ;-)

    The whole world knows why public hearings with full due process were not held, and you are part of that real world whether you like it or not. ;-)
     
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    Yes, many if not most of our judges and prosecutors are probably corrupt, but official corruption is an unavoidable bi-product of government - nothing new there.

    OTOH, it is hard to blame judges for not wanting to hold hearings when several Republican run legislatures and the Republican US Senate refused to hold full due process fact hearings into the integrity of the election.
     
  15. dairyair

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    What rigging of election were they trying to do?
    The election was over by the time the grade school level legal team went into action.

    Why would the House have to do anything? That legal team did it all, they provided nothing.
    Even more proof the election was the most secure in USA history. According to trump's hand picked security chief in charge of elections, Christopher Krebs.
     
  16. dairyair

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    Why did trump put corrupt judges on the benches?
    Even more proof trump legal team had no evidence. Or trump is the most corrupt president in history putting all those justices in place, the corrupt ones, per your words.

    This is a comprehensive list of all Article III and Article IV United States federal judges appointed by President Donald Trump as well as a partial list of Article I federal judicial appointments, excluding appointments to the District of Columbia judiciary.[1]

    As of January 3, 2021, the United States Senate has confirmed 234 Article III judges nominated by Trump: three associate justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, 54 judges for the United States courts of appeals, 174 judges for the United States district courts, and three judges for the United States Court of International Trade. Currently, there are three nominations to Article III courts awaiting Senate action: One for the courts of appeals, one for the district courts, and one for the Court of International Trade.[2] There are currently two vacancies on the U.S. courts of appeals, 43 vacancies on the U.S. district courts, and one vacancy on the U.S. Court of International Trade.[2][3] There are no other announced judicial vacancies that will occur before the end of Trump's term.[4] Trump has not made any recess appointments to the federal courts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump#:~:text=As of January 3, 2021,for the United States Court


    So now, we have Krebs, Barr, and hundreds and hundreds of trump hand picked people, telling the world, this election was fair and square.
     
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    the incredible evidence of election fraud which hold foreign and domestic actors culpable cannot be presented in a court of law.

    this level of corruption can only take place when a first world country has depreciated into a third world regime

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uphold_Democracy
     
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    it appears that Trump supporters have no representation in a democratic republic.
     
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    Not true. The Trump team accused the DP of massive election fraud throughout the campaign.
    And if those allegations were false the Trump team was engaged in a conspiracy to rig the election.

    So, why didn't the DP House hold public full due process hearings in November to expose the Trump team for suborning perjury in an attempt to rig the election? ;-)

    I want them all disbarred and in prison if they did that. Clear enough?
     
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    Not as of last week they don't. Without facebook or Twitter you can't run a political campaign. So let's hope big tech are the good guys, because they basically determine who runs now.
     
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    Focus: Then why didn't the DP leaders in the House hold full due process hearings and expose this awful Trump scheme in November. Do you think they are too fond of the Trump team to want to see them disbarred and thrown into prison for suborning perjury? Think it through.
     
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    What is a "democratic republic"?
     
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    Yep, they told us all from minute 1 after the election, in unison. Stinks.
     
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  24. dairyair

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    If only your or tRUMP legal team would provide this so called evidence. For now, the claim is fake.
     
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  25. dairyair

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    Sure they accused. They knew they were going to lose.

    But they had no proof prior to the election either, that's why all they could do was accuse.
     

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