Catholic church defended Jews from persecution as official policy

Against the ongoing distortion and false claims launch against the Catholic church by individuals who have been very bias against the church of all sorts of crimes one of it is that the Catholic church persecuted Jews. In fact, not even the Muslim hierarchy have agree or in support of the Catholic church persecuting Jews, the negative accusations would come mainly from none Muslims from extreme liberals and extreme enemies of the Catholic church.

History have been very clear, the Catholic church several times have spoken publicly and officially against the persecution of Jews.


Pope Gregory I (590-604), Gregory the Great, began the tradition of protecting Jews. He issued a historic decree “Sicut Judaeis ( As for the Jews … )”. He affirmed that Jews “should have no infringement of their rights…. We forbid to vilify the Jews. We allow them to live in Rome and to have full authority over their possessions.”

Pope Calixtus II (1119-1124) issued a decree of the same name condemning attacks on Jews and promised to defend European Jews from persecution by their Christian neighbors or at the hands of Crusaders.

Pope Gregory X renewed Sicut Judaeis in 1272 and added an important clause: ”An accusation against Jews based solely on the testimony of Christians was invalid; Jewish witnesses must also appear.”

Calixtus’s defense of the Jews was reissued at least 22 times by successive popes.

“Throughout the middle ages, Rome and the papal states were the only places in Western Europe where the Jews were at all times free from attacks or expulsions”.

For example, during the tenure of Pope Alexander VI, “the Jewish population of Rome almost doubled as Jews fled the Spanish and Portuguese Inquisitions and Pope Alexander welcomed them and gave them his official protection.”


Albert Einstein: ”Being a lover of freedom, when the Nazi revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks. Only the Catholic Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised, I now praise unreservedly.”

I was blessed to be able to attend a mass said by Pope Pius XII in St Peters in Rome. He was pope throughout my youth and struck me as an austere somber person.
I must confess that I was influenced by the steady stream of media criticism and innuendo – and always wondered if it could be true that perhaps he had been reticent in opposition to the Nazis. Now I know the truth, thanks to this book. It was a joy to read and I cannot recommend it to you too strongly.

 

Yeah, so then explain why the Catholic Church was supporting the Ustase Movement in Croatia by forcefully converting Orthodox Serbs and Jews or how about when the Jasenovac Concentration Camp was run by a Catholic Priest. Or how about when Pius XII promoted Archbishop Stepinac to Cardinal after he served five years in prison for supporting the Ustase, urging the forced conversion of the Jews and Serbs by the Ustase, and encouraged Ustase resistance in Yugoslavia? Or how about when Jon Paul II beatified the war criminal in 1998? The only reason the Catholic Church can claim innocence from supporting the Nazis is because the North German Protestants that dominated the political landscape of Germany wanted nothing to do with them, meanwhile they were more than happy to support Catholic fascists and war criminals.

 

When did they excommunicate Hitler? Oh, they didn't.

 

(*)(*)(*)(*), they had a Catholic priest running the Jasenovac and Stara Gradiska death camps and he was never excommunicated, at least Hitler didn't personally kill any of the people he ordered killed, Miroslav Filipovic admitted to killing at least a hundred people personally.

 

Then Nazi Party was statist. They worshiped Adolf Hitler. The fact that most germans were catholic is irrelevant.

 

The Catholic Church actively assisted ODESSA and helped Mengele and Eichmann to flee to S. America.

 

Go on Keep repeating that BS like a deranged parrot. I've answered that on
the other thread. The nazis didnt worship adolf anymore than americans worshipped George Bush .

Repeat " Anti-semitism (hatred of Jews )- + Moors, generally classified as "heathens " was rife throughout Christiandom for many centuries BEFORE Adolf and his Nazis. There's very little doubt t that before the Munich Putsch , significant segments of Catholic clergy and faithful in Munich were among the most important supporters of National Socialism, very much in tune with its increasing emphasis on Aryan racial supremacy and its contempt for Jews. But there're also evidence that relationship between Church + SOME Nazis , soured later during WW2, perhap due to the atrocities Nazi perperprated against non-German Catholics , i.e. in Poland, etc.

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That pretty much ends the thread.

 

LOL - I doubt whether WanRen would let is rest there.



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He will probalby say something to defend them instead of saying" yes, they (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.".

 

You may wish to take a look at this.


PS: Your reading comprehension skills are deplorable, I quite clearly said that Germany was controlled by the traditionally Protestant North Germans, it was the South Germans in Austria that were Catholic, as Hitler was.

 

How does anything in this thread match up to events like when Pope Alexander VI ordered all of the Jews in Rome forcibly baptized?

 

Nice photo, anti Catholics will always use unofficial policy of the Catholic church as an instrument towards their hatred at the Catholic church at the same time they will never recognize the official policy of the Catholic church which is and has been to save and protect Jews not only during WWII but since the 1st century when Catholics were being persecuted by the Roman Empire and when errant Christians knights were committing atrocities against Jews only the Catholic Church have officially in record spoke against it all other religion such as Islam have not.

Hitler's control over the Vatican was the use of the Jews, when ever the Vatican speaks up against Hitler the more the Nazi carry out extermination of Jews. The only way the Pope can do is to remain silent or speak and act in coded form in order to stop the Nazis from reprisal attacks against the Vatican through the Jews.

Actions on individual priest who may or supported the Nazi regime are of their own personal decision not the OFFICIAL POLICY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Hitler wanted legitimacy from the Catholic Church to issue an official proclamation, the Pope refused. While the Vatican refuse to officially support Hitler, Islamic Mufti openly supported and organize Muslim soldiers to help in exterminating Jews in the Balkans.....is the action of the Mufti and his Muslim soldiers equate to be the official policy of Muslims around the world during WWII? I am sure that anti Catholic will vehemently say no that the Mufti action does not speak for the entire Muslims world, at the same time they will say that the shaking hands of certain priest with Hitler as the photo shows is the official policy of the Catholic Church That is why it is very important that Catholic and friends should aggressively stand up to all these disinformation, lies and defamation against the Catholic church.

 

Following a broadcast from Vatican radio in January 1940, the Manchester Guardian hailed Vatican Radio as “tortured Poland’s most powerful advocate”.

In March 1940, the pope met with Ribbentrop, the German Foreign minister. Ribbentrop chastised the pope for siding with the Allies, whereupon the pope began reading from a long list of German atrocities. The NY Times reported that “in the burning words that he spoke to Herr Ribbentrop, Pius came to the defense of Jews in Germany and Poland”.

Following the Pope’s 1941 Christmas address, the NY Times wrote “The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas … In calling for order based on liberty, justice and love … the pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism. “

The Nazis themselves understood his opposition. A Nazi analysis of the Pope’s speech declares that “His speech is one long attack on everything we stand for. He is clearly speaking on behalf of the Jews.”

Yet the Pope had to be circumspect in what he said and alert to unintended consequences. The Dutch bishops, who credited the Pope for their inspiration, distributed a pastoral letter denouncing “the unmerciful and unjust treatment meted out to Jews”. But it is considered to have provoked the most savage of Nazi reprisals with the result that Holland suffered the highest percentage of Jews of any Nazi-occupied country being deported from Holland and killed. When the Bishop of Munster, Germany, wanted to speak out, the Jewish leaders of the diocese begged him not to for fear of even greater persecution.

Muslim leaders have not strongly spoken out against these atrocities, instead their Mufti allied with Hitler to help exterminate Jews in the Balkans. That is the result of today's Serbs distrust and hatred for Muslims and ironically, Muslim leadership have not public issue any apology and admittance of their participation with Hitler's Nazi regime and guilt.

 

LOLwut ?!?!

Catholic church in the 1st century it new to me

How did the Muslims came into equation ? this is a thread about Catholics and nazis .

 

What a dishonest OP .
how selective can you get ?

Adolf Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933. On March 23 he addressed the Reichstag, in the course of which he acknowledged Christian belief as the "unshakeable foundation of the moral and ethical life of our people". Cardinal Bertram, on March 28, announced that the bishops had dropped their prohibitions against Nazi membership. The bishops' decision opened the way for a Concordat between the Holy See and Hitler's government. The Concordat was signed on July 20, 1933. It gave the Catholic Church what it wanted in order to preserve the autonomy of ecclesiastical institutions and their religious activities; it assured Hitler that the Church would end so-called political Catholicism. Article 31 acknowledged the Church would not support social or political causes.
The German bishops issued a collective pastoral on 19 August 1936 to endorse Hitler's support for Franco. The Vatican felt it necessary to issue two encyclicals opposing the policies of Mussolini and Hitler: Non Abbiamo Bisogno in 1931 and Mit Brennender Sorge in 1937, respectively. Mit Brennender Sorge included criticisms of Nazism and racism.
The noted biographer of Adolf Hitler, Joachim Fest, wrote that; "At first the Church was quite hostile and its bishops energetically denounced the "false doctrines" of the Nazis. Its opposition weakened considerably in the following years [after the Concordat] [-] Cardinal Bertram developed an ineffectual protest system [-] Resistance..remained largely a matter of individual conscience. In general they [both churches] attempted merely to assert their own rights and only rarely issued pastoral letters or declarations indicating any fundamental objection to Nazi ideology."

 

The Nazis had guns and they shot people who resisted them. None of us have a right to pass judgment on people who lived under the Nazis. We take our own freedom for granted, but what would we do if faced with the same situation? None of us know until it happens to us, and hopefully God will not put us to that test.

 

I very bad time in history, one many would like to forget.. course then they run the risk of having history repeat itself

 

1 high ranking Nazi was excommunicated

































for marrying a non Catholic.

 

It shows the protestant bishop of the empire Johann Heinrich Ludwig Müller in 1934 in Nürnberg. He was a member of the "Deutsche Christen" (german Christians) who liked to eliminate the Old Testament and every influence of Jews. They li[k]ed to see in Jesus Christ an aryan. The theology of hate against Jews has not really something to do with the christian religion. One reaction of the protestants on the Nazi movement "Deutsche Christen" was the foundation of "Die bekennende Kirche" (the confessing church). Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a well known member of the confessing church. His poem "Who am I" is very impressing. He wrote it in prison a short time before the Nazis murdered him.

http://youtu.be/6iSvVVs9Rz4

 

Heinrich Himmler had about 3.5 million people under weapons - police, SS and so on ... This situation is comparable as if in the USA today would exist a private army of about 10 million people - while the same time 50-60 million male Americans would have to fight in an existential war outside of the USA.

http://youtu.be/bQDYet6q7A8

Not to forget: every avalanche starts with little causes and effects. I'm very worried for example about the concentration camp Guantanamo because it remembers me to the concentration camp Dachau.

 

Joachim Fest was a Catholic. His father said about Hitler "Hitler is such a good liar that the opposit of his lies are a lie again". This characteristicum have some comments here too.

Indeed it was for everyone during the Third Empire in Germany completly clear that the Catholic church was not on the side of the Nazis. And it's indeed ludicrous to think in the headquarters of "The Leader" were bishops marching in and out. Hitler and his gang were atheists. They denied every responsibility in the eyes of the Lord. For example: From the Nazi-leaders and the SS [nearly] no one married in a church. The Nazis tried to modify existing religious feelings as well as they tried or to create new religions because they needed mind manipulating methods. The Nazis were very good in mind manipulating propaganda.

http://youtu.be/iaJR9cG2_AM

 

None of you Catholics have anything to say about this?

 

You can not separate the Muslims from the Catholics, in as much as you want very much to ignore the role of Muslims and their leaders which they actually allied with Nazi, the Catholic leadership clearly did not. What is so ironic is that anti Catholic can not produce one single official document from the Vatican that will proof that the Catholic church allied with Nazi. In fact, the Catholic church have official proof that they are against Nazi Germany and have spoken out and acted in defence of Jews since the 1st century.