Chicago Firearms Confiscation Begins

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Libertarian ForOur Future, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Let's get the first argument out of the way, yes, the point of this is ensure legal folks own guns. Got it, move on. The point of this article is the fact that folks clamor for gun registration and all this other jazz, but claim 'No one's talking about coming after your guns', insert this article.

    Law abiding citizens complained about this very issue, but a lot of folks stated no one's coming for your guns. Well, did any of you tell the citizens of Chicago that same thing? I'm sure that they would've loved to have a record of that when the Cook County police decided to go after their guns.

    Then again, I'm sure this is to help curb the violence in Chicago, right?
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Claiming that peoples guns are being taken illegally, or outside of their rights, is simply false.

    There are process and procedure to legal gun ownership, and registration and licensing is one of them. Don't maintain the requirements, then lose the guns.
     
  3. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    So do you then say that every person that stated no one would be coming for guns was lying?
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.

    They are only coming for the guns that are not being properly regulated.

    The constitution gave you no such right for unlimited or unrestricted gun ownership. Infact, the word "regulated" was put right into the amendment.
     
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    You don't understand the English language as it was used in 1789.
     
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    too bad none of the guerrillas in the south side are on any type of registry so they can keep their illegal guns.
     
  7. Iron River

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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Does a well "regulated Militia" have anything to do with owning a gun other than that the Militia needs to have guns? Our founders, as any fool would understand, that it is very hard to gather a Militia if the people are unarmed.
     
  8. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Again, they're still confiscating guns. If the case is to be made that they're going after guns that aren't properly regulated, where is the backlash over the 'Fast & Furious' program? How many illegal guns are in the hands of the drug cartel because of the US government? Even worse, border patrol officers are being killed by these very guns.

    However, let's go after America citizens guns. Why, because that's going to curb gun violence in America, not by giving guns to the drug cartels, that's nothing. Those "assault rifles", they're dangerous and no Americans should have them.
     
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    I dont understand how these racists can get away with this.

    Dont those idiots in Chicago know an ID card requirement is completely racist?

    This is obviously an attempt by racists to keep under privileged African Americans from owning fire arms.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finally.

    Total gun confiscation can't happen soon enough.

    (I don't mean disarm police or the military, btw).
     
  11. Chuz Life

    Chuz Life Active Member Past Donor

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    The entire principle behind the 2nd Amendment (born out of a distrust of government) was for "the people" to have the right and the means to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government.

    So, I never understood the idea of a citizin having to license and register their guns with a government they may one day have to defend their rights against. (As the founders had to defend theirs against the king)
     
  12. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Most folks understood completely why folks wanted citizens to license & register their guns. This was to easily be able to identify individuals and when guns are needed to be confiscated, they know exactly where they are. When folks clamored this, they were either called 'conspiracy theorists' or 'gun nuts'.

    Now that this story has broke, I'm waiting for folks to start talking about it. This just further proves the validity of folks issue of having all of this registered. It gives the government too much power. Sorry, I want my privacy & freedom over the false sense of security.
     
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    Gun ownership is an inalienable right as intended by the Founders of this great nation.

    I can see why people do not register and who could blame them. Liberals are after the guns.
     
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    You have no clue on what "a well regulated militia" means, do you?

    It doesn't mean government regulation.

    It means a militia that is regulated within itself and not a bunch of marauding bandits.

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    Or the bad guys.

    Because the bad guys will always have guns.
     
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    Chicago and Washington D.C. with their runaway crime and murder rates are trying to disarm the law abiding citizens. Why?

    Both cities even had laws making it illegal to own a handgun in your own house until the Supreme Court slapped the crap out of them asking what they didn't understand about the 2nd Amendment being an individual inalienable right.
     
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    Haha.

    Cheap attempt.

    I understand just fine that the founders understood that an armed populace was necessary to maintain a free state, they also understood that a regulated militia is the body that could guarantee such.

    There is no such right to unlimited and unrestricted weaponry in the citizens hands.

    Anybody who is truly interested in defending the right to bear arms would support intelligent protocol and procedure to ensure weapons don't get into the hands of the mentally unfit.
     
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    Man. This is just rich. One of the best comments I have read all day. What a joke.
     
  18. jcarlilesiu

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    A well regulated militia is the entity that protects liberty. Not guns themselves. And that militia should be regulated to be armed.
     
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    Strangely, my search for a single instance of gun confiscation in Chicago has come up empty....how curious.

    There were few instances of people worrying that such a thing might occur...but no actual instances, almost as if some imaginary fear became a reality.
     
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    No it wasn't.
     
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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    There is an important word right there.

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    You hit the nail right on the head.
     
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    Gun-related assaults are more common in gun-friendly states.

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    More guns equals more crime. That's why the US is the most violent OECD country.
     
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    The American people already have a well-regulated militia. It's called the National Guard and it's highly regulated. Any other militia that is not sanctioned by the government is not needed and is probably an anti-government, illegal band of armed criminals.
     
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    "There are process and procedure to legal gun ownership..."

    Taxcutter says:
    Those permits are as difficult to get as New Source Review permits and harder to maintain. All because the gun confiscators want it that way.
     
  25. RP12

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    Finally some honesty from you. I await your petition for Feinstein to not be able to carry along with Bloomberg having to get rid of his little private army of armed security......

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    USSC says you are wrong.
     

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