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Chicago is broke, but the city thinks it can open grocery stores

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by tharock220, Sep 19, 2023.

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’d actually be very interested in a citation for this.
     
    3link, Sep 20, 2023
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    Just when you think these people can't get any dumber, they surprise you.
     
    independentthinker, Sep 21, 2023
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    that and Amazon... online shopping
     
    FreshAir, Sep 21, 2023
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    But wait, people here were claiming that stores should not have police protection that they should provide it all on their own!
     
    Bluesguy, Sep 21, 2023
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    Bluesguy, Sep 21, 2023
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How does Amazon online shopping make people steal from stores?
     
    Bluesguy, Sep 21, 2023
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    The empty shelves in Venezuela predate US sanctions. True, there's plenty of food here in the US, but the Venezuelan government tried to subsidies for agriculture, supermarkets, and shoppers, but the economics weren't there. When the city of Chicago finds out it can't force agribusiness to supply their stores for the prices the city wants, the stores will never be stocked. A national government couldn't pull this off. What makes a declining city think it can?
     
    tharock220, Sep 21, 2023
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    The city only needs to prosecute and jail the thieves. They just need to do their job. Nothing else is necessary.
     
    fmw, Sep 21, 2023
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    where did I say it did?
     
    FreshAir, Sep 21, 2023
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    You said Amazon was causing them to close with their online shopping did you not? How does that cause the theft that is causing them to close? Everyone where I live has full access to Amazon and all sorts of online shopping and all our stores are open and running and more opening.
     
    Bluesguy, Sep 22, 2023
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    the mayor already said they arent criminals. They’re victims lashing out at injustice.
     
    tharock220, Sep 22, 2023
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    Who saw this part?

    "It's an endeavor done in other small cities"

    It looks like it's done fairly often. I think that this might actually work, and we'll never hear about it again when it's a success.
     
    wgabrie, Sep 22, 2023
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    Small cities that are likely not subject to the same comically ridiculous levels of unchecked open air theft in broad daylight that Chicago and other big cities are experiencing. Until they fix that problem then this "solution" is nothing more than an additional way to screw over the citizens of Chicago and Illinois and the rest of the country.

    Why? Because when Wal-Mart is robbed blind guess who foots the bill to restock those shelves? Wal-Mart. When socialized grocery stores are robbed blind guess who foots the bill to restock those shelves? You. So if you're ok with your tax dollars being spent to basically give folks free groceries on a routine basis then by all means support this. I for one am not in favor of footing the bill for criminals to fill their trash bags with groceries and walk out the front door whenever they please without consequence.

    I like how they say they will be using development grants and accessing funding that exists from the national level therefore they won't have to use taxpayer dollars. Where the hell do they think federal money comes from...

    Stock these places with the most basic of food items from the FDA and then we can talk. Nobody robs the produce section during these open air raids.
     
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    IIRC Venezuela's problem is mostly that they regulate how much foreign currency is allowed to move a day per person so that curbs foreign trade and investment. Anyway, Chicago can buy from Walmart or Sams. A lot of small stores already do that because they can buy retail there for less than they can get wholesale having delivered to them by normal distribution methods. Beer/gas/and soda trucks are about the only things you see at convenience stores in our area. They pick up everything else at Walmart.
     
    Chrizton, Sep 23, 2023
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    That means it is time for the justice system to lash out at them. I thought Lightfoot was as bad as a mayor can be until I saw the moron that replaced her. Chicago voters should be ashamed.
     
    fmw, Sep 23, 2023
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    Aren't most of them dead?
     
    Jarlaxle, Sep 23, 2023
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    Are most of whom dead?
     
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    That's a big shocking surprise that all of those big names just happened to board up shop and leave certain areas.

    I think it means they're all racist.... For simply pointing out that stores can't exist if they are continually being robbed blind.

    You see it's not the problem that's the problem.... The real problem is the people and businesses that are pointing out the problem.

    Those people are the problem... Not the problem itself.
     
    FatBack, Sep 23, 2023
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    We righty's tried to tell you lefties that this is what being soft on crime and basically legalizing shoplifting looks like.

    Maybe y'all should have listened to that perhaps...
     
    FatBack, Sep 23, 2023
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    Soft on crime? Last election righties were telling us we locked up too many black people with the 94 crime bill.
     
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    Voters in Chicago.
     
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    they’re proud of being fatherless and unemployed. Where would the shame come from?
     
    tharock220, Sep 23, 2023
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    What cities are passing laws making the threshold for felony theft much much higher?
    What cities are passing laws that you can't interfere with shoplifters?

    The answer is blue Democrat cities.

    Well this is just what you get, if you remove the consequences from people's actions it turns out that they're much more likely to just keep repeating them
     
    FatBack, Sep 24, 2023
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    They are going to buy from Walmart and Sam's and of course add in the margin to cover their operating expenses in the building and the labor to run it and that is going to make the people there better off? And when people just walk in and fill their carts and walk out without paying how long can they do this?
     
    Bluesguy, Sep 25, 2023
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    A city is not a State.

    Communism is not owned by a State either.

    ...
    communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism
     
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