Chicago Thug Cop runs over little girl, then shoots and kills her distraught dad

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  1. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Come on, Ace - let's get realistic here. It would be impossible for anyone to 'cool off the situation' when he's being beaten by 2 guys, doncha think?

    I would have been more concerned about my child and her injuries, calling 911, then beating up the rider of the bike. If he had not dumped his bike, he would have been long gone and she would have been laying there in the street until the father finally found her.....
     
  2. Herkdriver

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    Anyone who believes their life is in immediate danger has a right to defend it with lethal force...anyone...even if he did not identify himself as a police officer....the fact he is a police office is incidental to the fact...he believed his life was in jeopardy with no avenue of escape.

    He's on the ground...
    broken ankle, dislocated shoulder...his ability to fight back with non-lethal force or run away is significantly impaired...
    and he's getting beaten.

    I'm not understanding why the motorcyclist is the bad guy here?
     
  3. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Well, tell me what I missed ! All I saw was someone saying that the cop did not identify himself as a cop until after the shot. That in itself sounds strange as being the only relative sound bite. We don't know if the cop did or did not, and if some folks heard it, and some not. But more importantly, we have one guy saying "of course the father was mad" ................ what does that mean ? He was swinging on the cop ? Knocked him down and was kicking him ? I doubt he was just "vocally mad". And why do they not have someone saying whether there was an assault ? Surely they saw what happened ?

    While it would have been great had cooler heads prevailed, my instincts tell me that the father went off on the cop.

    Edit in: Now that I have read every post, my instincts were correct. Year-old story is a bit lame.
     
  4. 110db

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    Too bad none of you were there.
     
  5. texmaster

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    We are talking about the real Lone Ranger right?

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    Not the fake one.

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  6. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree. IIRC, this is the story where they were in a restaurant and the 4 yr old was allowed to roam around ... and went straight out the door and into the street...........
     
  7. Hummingbird

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    What's that supposed to mean?
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    They claim he didn't identify himself as the police, as if its alright to beat a guy in the street as long as he doesn't tell you he is a cop. I suspect the cop was probably white.
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    For goodness sake. This story is 11 months old.
     
  10. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is a 4 year old in the streets at 10:30pm supervised or not?
     
  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    There were a lot of articles about this incident when it happened but I have been unable to find any recent stories about how it was resolved. I suppose the review board patted the cop on the back for blasting the black father.
     
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    Damn, race baiting right off the bat. You're a gangster.
     
  13. Defengar

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    The clip said she was being escorted by her 18 year old cousin to a restaurant right across the street that her parents were at.
     
  14. Mac-7

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    The "real" Lone Ranger and later Tonto were fictional characters for a radio serial during the 1930's.

    Totally made up.

    But the story about the Texas Ranger and the riot is thought to have been a real incident.
     
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    “After the accident he gets up and the girl’s father became irate with him and comes over to him,” Camden continued. “The officer tells him, ‘I’m the police. Take it easy.’ The guy says, ‘I don’t give a [bleep] who you are’ and hits him in the face. Another man hits him from behind. The officer goes to the ground. They’re beating him and he’s about to lose consciousness. He pulls his weapon to defend himself at that point, fires one shot, and kills one of the individuals who happens to be the father of the 4-year-old.”

    If this is what happened how to you expect the cop to "cool off the situation"?
     
  16. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    While I understand his grief following the incident, it seems his priority should've been getting his daughter some medical attention vs. confronting a man who apparently risked his own injury to avoid a collision. Sure, the off duty officer could've tried to calm the situation, but I tend to lean toward the officer in this instance (just going off the OP story).
     
  17. Kurmugeon

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    The fact that the guy was a cop is irrelevant.

    We do not know all of the facts yet, and due to the probably race baiting which will surround this incident, we may never know them.

    What I've seen so far...

    The Parent(s) did not watch out for the child and keep her from the street.

    The Motorcyclist attempted to avoid the child, dumping his bike, but the child was mildly struck anyway.

    The Father, and several others confronted and verbally attacked the motorcyclist.

    The cyclist attempted to diffuse the situation, but was most likely dazed and confused from the fall.

    The Father and several others physically assaulted the cyclist, who happened to be armed.

    At some point, the cyclist felt his life was in danger, and he drew his weapon and killed one of the assailants.

    So far, this appears to be a case of parental neglect, followed by mob assault, and justified self-defense shooting.

    Other facts may come to light, but for now, I'd say the Cyclists was only defending his life.

    He may have been a police officer, but that is irrelevant, in that everything described above could just have easily occurred to a civilian with a CCW.

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  18. Enemy Country OGS

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    Wait a minute? I know you.
     
  19. texmaster

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    Wait. You actually thought I thought the Lone Ranger was real when I posted a pic to the 50s tv show? Really?
     
  20. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Really, even the cop with a broken ankle and dislocated shoulder had the state of mind to instantly go to the small girl to try and help her. And the fathers only concern seemed to be to beat the guy who risked life and limb to protect someone elses child.
     
  21. AceFrehley

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    Race-baiting? Huh? What does skin color have to do with it?
     
  22. Kurmugeon

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    Nothing, which is the position I took.

    That won't stop Jackson and the MSM for making a race card issue out of it.

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    If that was me or you what would of happen to us because we aren't armed?
     
  24. Riot

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    Where is Obama on this one?
     
  25. AceFrehley

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    Eh, I think they were both black anyway. And besides, it's Chicago, in a bad neighborhood, so really who cares if one (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) shoots another?
     

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