Children in Detention - Illegal Immigration

Click the graph to have a look at the true story ^^

You wouldn't believe it listening to the media. It's as clear as day from this diagram who is to blame for putting children into detention, and who is trying to remove them. More proof the TV and radio media is biased hard to the left. We didn't hear a thing about it from anyone except the LNP when the ALP was in power..... gutless pencil chewers.

So next time you watch the media reporting about the LNP locking kids up, think of the truth shown in this graph.

If the Green's had any honesty they would stand for the truth about these issues, but no, they just pander to the ALP by being anti-LNP.

DV once asked me what the values of Australia are, well it used to be truth and a classless society - both things the political left in this country rally against for their own greed.

 

Can't argue with that.

 

Thanks for these stats, they certainly clear up a few things:

1. Coalition are making asylum seekers suffer in those countries that they have run to to escape persecution and inhumane treatment into countries that don't have the capacity to deal with them and therefore cause more persecution and suffering by being champions of "stopping the boats"!

2. I mean it was always going to be obvious that under the coalition inhumane action of stopping the boats and not taking up our slack in the world to support these people, we are obviously going to see less children in detention centres.

3. Now, out of those smaller numbers of children in detention under coalition management, children in these detention centres are suffering the effects of extreme levels of physical abuse, sexual abuse, mental disorders and suicide attempts. It goes hand in hand with this governments harshness in pretending that by stopping the boats they are stopping terrorism. The latest pair who were intending on beheading Aussies for the cause of ISIS arrived here by plane.

These guys shamelessly slap each on the back telling each other how good a job they have done by stopping the boats. Their political game playing is an indictment on this government and not an action that deserves bouquets!

 

We have an immigration intake which incorporates a signifigant refugee intake.
That is fact.

The ALP fill up detention centres and cause people to drown at sea by promoting economic migration through vulnerability in refugee policy.
That is fact.

I'm sure you realize that the REAL vulnerable people cannot afford to travel half way around the world to pay people smugglers to cross thousands of km's of ocean in the hope they might arrive and get accepted as refugee's because they fake their identities. The reason they choose this option is because they know they would not get accepted through the proper mechanism's, because they are not real refugee's, instead rather economic migrants. Hence the fake passports or lost papers they all have when they arrive from places like Indonesia.
That is fact.

Don't manufacture lies and peddle them to propogate your delusion, instead perhaps be a truth vigilante


So lets get back to the truth, using your bent logic I might as well walk around saying things like 'the ALP likes to fill up detentions centres with boat people, they also really love to see them drowning in the ocean too'. It is more representative of the data in those graphs then what you posted. Only a sick in head person would support such stupidity..... strangely the ALP and its supporters don't seem to respect the causality their policy directly generates, so I guess they are that sick or stupid. If you cannot manage those variables into a humane perspective then your probably being biased for some reason - it should be obvious, why side with what is in effect promoting detention of children and risking dangerous boat trips which we know have killed thousands when the ALP were in power??? You seem to support the 'left', so which one is it, sick or stupid, or do you have some other logical explanation for promoting policy which drowns babies and locks up children?

 

Incorporates??? Interesting word to use in this context. We take a significant number of refugees....(that's a fact!) Thats a long piece of string....it's a fact! Lol!

You have an opportunity to show us how long that piece of string is that is apparently factually long!

You read Murdoch newspapers way too much. Labor aimed to address the issue by not being tight arse saddists, killing off any hope people have for freedom and security. They could do better, there is no doubt about that. Gillard tried to lift our refugee intake by attempting to nip issues of boat people in the bud where it is most concerning. The Maylasia solution by far was a humane and sensible step in the right direction. Labor could have stopped the boats...how hard could it be. It was more than stopping the boats it was about us ensuring we fulfilled our obligations and aiming to address the issue appropriately.

Again, you've obviously got this information while eating your cereal waiting for one of Murdoch's lackey's to fling your news on your door step.

Show us your facts.

Prove me wrong with facts!

Well all these economic refugees with money coming out their ears are risking their little children's lives for more money at any cost of life, especially their children. Wake up, it's a ludicrous comment that stenches of a dailytelegraph article. Many people from these areas have trouble getting travel documents and obviously one of the reasons they're escaping. People obviously sense they have a better chance of survival by getting on a boat than being caught in their own country or a country that doesn't have human rights obligations or are simply too impoverished themselves to support them.

You seriously got to stop reading your breakfast news and challenge yourself with something a little bit more complex!

 

I dont read any newspapers.... after working in a newsagency as a kid I now cannot stand the things.

The economic refugees have wealth in relative terms to those who have nothing and are doing the right thing waiting in refugee camps, how do you think they travel half way around the world to get here - by paying smugglers, in one way or the other, either way participating in criminal activity means its illegal.... they know it, they know they are breaking the rules, they are putting themselves above others who are less fortunate, and I'd rather our refugee intake be filled with those who really need it, not those who go shopping for the best economy to migrate into. The issue is the ALP policy facilitated a huge increase in people trying to get here though those means and this led to thousands of deaths at sea, and thousands in detention centres. Its the LNP who are reducing the people in detention and have stopped people trying to get here.

 

Back to your favorite subject, are we? The bad Greens and horror Labor..................

If the Greens were in power, no children would spend another day in detention.................

Thinking about your hatred of the Lefties we should consider a new order of right wing mentality, not only shown by Abbott and his henchmen, but also by yourself............

Despite our different opinions, have a really great day,
regards

 

First things first, how about you posts those facts that you proclaim in your post above. Secondly, where do you get your information from? Alan jones radio show or andrew bolts television program? Listening to Tony abbott mantra s during some Conservative party gig? Has to come from somewhere.

10's of thousands are dying because they can't escape their countries or simply stuck in other countries who persecute and abuse them. While ever they're dying over there, we don't have to worry about it. While they're not dying at sea heading here we don't care....good job.

We have one of the lowest takes of refugee per capita.

 

While I had every sympathy and empathy for the innocent children being held in detention centres. There is only ONE person responsible for their plight, and that person is their parents. They firstly endanger their own children's lives by putting them on un-seaworthy boats, and try to illegally smuggle them into another country illegally - even though they know and understand if they get caught, they will be placed into a detention centre. Then these same people and some other do-gooder groups have the bloody nerve and audacity to accuse Australians of being mean to them. Maybe the children that have a mental illness, have the illness not because of what happens inside the detention centres, but because they were forced to spend weeks aboard a rickety-leaky boat that could sink at any moment.

If you don't want your children in a detention centre, then don't try to smuggle them into another country illegally, or try to used your children as a bargaining tool for an early release for yourself.

The buck stops with the people (parents) endangering the children's lives in the first place, and putting them into a situation whereby they could be placed in a detention centre if caught being smuggled illegally into another country.

 

FACT. Under the coalition government there are less children in detention and the numbers are continuing to fall. Your political OPINION won't change this FACT.

 

How about you post some facts to support your opinion above.

Yep, not our problem.

Yep, Big Tone is saving lives at sea.

Not surprising, we are no where near any conflict zones. It's not as if refugees (genuine refugees) can stream across the border from a war zone. Most real refugees would never be able to travel the 10,000+km to get here. Only the pretend ones with lots of money.

 

Anyone with half a brain knows these people are economic refugees, and they are also despicable in using their children as a tool to get early releases when caught. They also know how to manipulate foolish naïve Australians for sympathy, who's hearts are obviously bigger than their intellect.

What kind of despicable person would firstly endanger their children's lives, and then psychologically use their own children's misfortune for their own selfish agendas. I don't think THEY are people we should have in this country.

 

It's a political forum, and these are the political parties, and those are the figures representing the impact of the policies of the main political parties. The figures do all the talking for me, I'm just amazed at how blatantly obvious and terrible it was under the ALP and how unprofessional the media reports the TRUTH about it.

 

Right, you've taken a few stats that suggest one element but doesn't provide the facts of the bigger picture. Still waiting for you to post those facts. Let me guess.....you don't have any.

Like king tony and his servants you run off with worthless propaganda. Why on earth do you righties do that. Why don't you just post information to support your claim. Dang I keep forgetting......you don't have any!

 

The topic is detention, and children in detention...... those stat's tell the whole story. If you think mass uncontrolled immigration from the 3rd world into Australia is a good solution then congratulations on a stupid idea. It's a stupid idea because it would bring Australia down. We need to manage migration.... and the ALP clearly showed they are incompetent at that just like every other part of governance. You can squirm as much as you like but you know your peddling rot.

 

You are the one that stated your comments were fact, so how about you back them up! You can't go around loosely stating stuff without proof! Even worse trying to tell the forum it's fact!

As for children in detention, surely it is about ensuring comfort and security while they are in detention. The atrocious figures that have been brought to light jUst goes to show the inhumanity of this government. You people complain if asylum seekers are provided with televisions or books! You people are a joke . Bang on as much as you like but the reality of the bigger picture is just atrocious and for you to glorify in the numbers of children in detention shows the superficiality of your thinking!

 

Your not making any sense again. Which facts do you disagree with, that Australia has an immigration intake which incorporates a significant refugee intake, or the ALP fill up detention centres and cause people to drown at sea by promoting economic migration through vulnerability in refugee policy. I guess its the second, which is exactly what the chart in the OP shows. You just argue for arguments sake, and dont seem to care how much stupid nonsense you post doing so. It's a waste of time talking to trolls like you.... you have no points unless your agreeing with someone elses = one dimensional! Its not wonder you think anyone who disagrees with you is one dimensional, because thats your limited as frak worldview. Lame.

 

1. Show us how long that string is, I mean the facts about Australia's "significant" refugee intake.

2. Saving lives by stopping the boats is like locking the door of your house to children because they jay walked across a busy and dangerous highway to escape the grip of a child predator! "I'm not going to let you in because you jay walked across the highway and this is not right. You getting rapped, beaten or killed is not my problem, my problem is to ensure that children cross the road safely and that our numbers of injury and deaths due to people crossing the road are kept down to a minimum".

Seriously, how stupid does that sound! I thought you being a young person would have a better idea of how the world runs but is not obviously so!

Calling me a troll is just your way of saying that you have nothing and that you just want to deflect the argument!

 

What an excellent response, but for some even this is too difficult to understand....................

 

Definition of significant is open to debate, I think its about 25,000 a year by about 2020... that is just refugee's which are generally going to be going straight onto welfare, and not the migration of skilled workers. What's your point again? Oh you dont have one.....

Funny, boring, but funny. Tell that to the thousands of dead people in the ocean that were lured by gutless ALP's governance.

 

Hmmm,

6 months ago our town's window cleaner left for fi/fo.

There are some young guns here in town, which could easily set themselves up with this career, but no one wants to. Strange, isn't it?

I rather have some refugees here who are willing to work, and if you let them, most of them do.

All you do is stirring brownish propaganda.

The world had this before, Adolf his name was...............

Today its Tone and AT

Regards

 

Do you really think its acceptable behaviour for refugees to put their own children's lives in peril and danger to smuggle them into another countries backdoor illegally, and then have the same refugees accuse Australians of not treating their children correctly? I thinks that's a situation of the kettle calling the pot black - is it not?

Why would any caring protective parent place their own child's life in danger in the first place, and then smuggle them into another country knowing your child will end up in a detention centre?

Its all a big game to those economic refugees, and they use children for their own agendas.

 

Don't forget those 25,000 stay here. Then next year there's another 25,000 and then another and another and another. We can't afford to be supporting so many freeloaders. How many 'refugees' are in Australia living on welfare now?

 

Hardly.... you might like to think I'm making it up but if you had any clue you'd know I was just being realistic.

 

WARNING

All of you Aussies better get your coastal borders secured or one day you are going to wake up and Sydney is going to look like Los Angeles.

What few Americans there are still living in Los Angeles still haven't recovered from the culture shock from waking up every morning and instead of the smell of coffee in the morning it's smell of refried beans and dirty pampers..