Christian Bakers Who Lost their Business after Homosexual Attack Refuse to Pay $135K

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The couple were awarded punitive damages by the judge or jury in this case. It is no different than someone being sued for refusing to serve someone because they are black or Jewish. The morons who refused to sell a cake to this couple because they were gay deserve whatever they get. Also, it has nothing to do with being Christians. A true Christian would never act like this and try to belittle other people because they are different from them. These imbeciles should move to a white supremacist community like Sand Point Idaho and open up a store that sells canned water giant knives and MREs. They would be welcomed as heroes there with their tiny minds and bigoted points of view up there.
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    completely irrelevant.

    Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman were planning a civil commitment ceremony.

    Oregon had a domestic partnership law since 2008. Civil commitment ceremonies were not illegal under Oregon law.
     
  3. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Did they refuse to make a cake with "Kim and Kelly" on it?
    Or are you just assuming to know what they would do?

    It's one or the other, eh.

    Reality:
    They didn't refuse this lesbian when she previously bought a wedding cake for a hetero wedding.
    They refused this lesbian when she wanted a wedding cake for a gay wedding.

    Couldn't be any clearer than that.

    And I didn't have to make that up !
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Making because for a looong, long, loooong time, some assjacks ****ed it up for a lot of people by discriminating the hell out of certain classes of folks.

    - - - Updated - - -

    FOURTH time now!!

    Going for broke, aren't you?

    And in case you missed the earlier post:

    THIRD time now you post that same **** - even after being told it is FALSE, and even having been shown a page and link to the Findings by BOLI.

    Now you've even doubled down on it: Show us where "Melissa knew the woman was gay and even told her to come back for more.'

    Go on. Let's see if you can prove it.

    Typically though, I'll bet you ignore this post.

    Let's see if you can man up this time and stand behind your words.
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Well, you confirm with your post that USA becomes more and more like Soviet Union.
    People must be hired according to quotas and political reasons, not according to their skills.
    USA will go down the drain, like it was the case with the SU.
    I do not live in the USA, so why should I care?

    :D
     
  6. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Third time? Sorry, I usually ignore you.

    For the troll, I had to find it on a liberal web site.

    Rachel first patronized Sweet Cakes to get a wedding cake for her mother. Melissa knew Rachel was a lesbian but still told her to “come back” if she ever got married. Later, Rachel ran into Melissa at a bridal expo and told her she would come in soon to pick a cake—the couple had decided to hold a commitment ceremony. (At that point, same-sex marriage remained illegal in Oregon.) But when Rachel and her mom went to Sweet Cakes, it was Aaron Klein who greeted them, and he informed them that “we don’t do same-sex weddings.”

    Oh, here's yet another lefty report:

    Cryer wanted a grand wedding. Her mother came to town, and they visited a local bridal show where they noticed the Sweet Cakes by Melissa booth. They'd ordered from Melissa's Sweet Cakes once before — for Cryer's mother's wedding — and they enjoyed it. So, they scheduled a Sweet Cake tasting for the following day.

    Apparently you have no clue about the facts in the case.

    Maybe you should stop the whining and start reading.

    And please...... stop worrying so much about what I say. I'm embarrassed for you.


    #rekt



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  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Care to imagine for a moment - I have a blown tire, wrecker arrives - oh your the wrong color, wrecker leaves. Now in big cities there are other options - small cities everyone may share the same view. -- A single gas station in between a vast distance: car arrives, wrong religion - sorry no gas for you. Replay this with medical services, retail, dining, government services...

    That seems like a great idea doesn't it. There are ways around public accommodation laws - create a private club.
     
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    So she offered "a marriage cake" service and then the service was denied.
    They did not have a valid reason to deny service, thus they lost the case.
     
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    Should a Black Baker be forced to bake a Ku Klux Klan decorated cake? Or how about a Jewish Baker being forced to make a cake with a swastika on it? Should a Muslim Baker be forced to decorate a cake with someone peeing on Mohamed's face?
     
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    Good on you for trying - and at least not ignoring this one.



    ETA: I had not seen the interview with the couple done a few months back.

    That detail was not in the Judges findings.

    Thank you.
     
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    The problem began when the lezbos ordered a same-sex wedding cake. The lezbos demanded the Christians submit.
     
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    Yes, I know they lost the case. Hence the thread.... and the lefty whining.
     
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    Y'all remember when the left told us same-sex marriage wouldn't harm anyone?
     
  14. Steve N

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    Marriage cake.....:roflol:

    The valid reason is they were making a "wedding cake" when gay weddings were illegal. Now if you want a civil ceremony cake, find a store that sells 'em. This bakery made wedding cakes.
     
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    Lying discriminators ??

    Lol, holy cow.... you just aren't afraid to humiliate yourself are ya....

    Here, in her own words:

    Rachel: "My mother and my brother moved out here after we moved. We told them this was going to be more accepting for my brother, who's also gay and at the time was in high school and was having problems with being bullied in Texas.

    Mom met a man, and they decided to get married. I did all of their wedding planning. Part of that was finding a place to purchase a cake for their wedding. I found Sweet Cakes by Melissa online, set up an appointment, and the three of us—my mom, Laurel and I—went to a cake-tasting and eventually purchased a cake from them".


    http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-25119-bittersweet_cake.html


    Dude, I know you're angry but ffs at least take the lesbian's own words for it.
    Read about the story.... learn some things about it before you argue.

    Did you notice you're the only one even arguing this point?
    That's because it's been known since it happened, and discussed a million times.

    Save some face... don't even reply.
    Pretend you weren't just owned with the woman's own words ;)
     
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    What's a same-sex wedding cake?

    Does it look and taste any different than an opposite sex cake?

    Is it creamier?
     
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    This is like blaming the girl for being in the same room as the rapist.
     
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    Are you suggesting that a business owner can offer his services through a private club to avoid public access laws? If everyone did that, would you lobby for public access laws for private clubs? I can see this is going to get ridiculous.
     
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    You don't think what? That a lawless government is worse than an individual scofflaw?

    Or do you think that I don't understand that this case is about more than merely refusing to bake a cake? For the record, I unequivocally stated that the couple broke the law. Everyone knows that this is a discrimination case. The only argument that has been made - and it hasn't been made by myself - is that the couple's religious rights entitled them to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple because it violated their conscience.

    Again, I'm not arguing whether or not the couple broke the law - they did. What I am arguing is that the government violated Section 16 of the Oregon Constitution by imposing an excessive fine, and perhaps a cruel and unusual punishment, on the couple.

    So, you're arguing that people should be fined for an offense that they have not committed?

    In legal terms, I think the government screwed up even more than the couple did.
     
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    The interview with the couple makes it even more clear they did not *target* the bakery.

    They were told by Melissa, apparently they would be welcome.

    So much for that stupid "targeted" talking point.

    Thank again for that link. I had followed the case from the beginning very closely.

    Last few months It's really fallen back into the news, and that "breaking their silence" interview (which I hadn't seen until now) done a few months back is illuminating.

    Oh wait. I'm still reading...looks like Melissa disputes the claim she told them she'd bake a cake.
     
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    Naw, it's planned targeting to further the homosexual mafia agenda and punish Christians.
     
  23. Steve N

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    You're absolutely, 100% right, they could have used ANY cake off the shelf and called it a civil ceremony cake. They didn't need a custom cake for a wedding that wasn't allowed to take place.
     
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    And yet, Melissa is standing by her man. Admirable but foolish.

    Also, do you not think that a husband and a wife talk to each other and know who is who, what they do, etc?
     
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    I particularly do not care about places discriminating, as long as they advertise said discrimination. I am burdoned if I drive to a facility that is advertising a good or service and am denied for superficial or "owner personal beliefs" not under my control - if I know about the denial ahead of time then no burden exists.

    And no - I would not advocate public accommodation laws be applied to private clubs.
     
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