Clerk Kills Would-Be Robber Who Grabbed Daughter

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  1. DonGlock26

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    Clerk Kills Would-Be Robber Who Grabbed Daughter

    NAPLES, Fla. – Sheriff's officials in southwest Florida say a clerk at a 24-hour food store shot and killed a man who tried to rob her and take her 1-year-old daughter.

    Store owner Del Ackerman told the Naples Daily News (http://bit.ly/rnKaJe ) his granddaughter shot the man after he stormed into the store Tuesday afternoon and demanded money and grabbed the stroller that held her baby.

    Authorities say 22-year-old Elizabeth Easterly was alone in the store with her 1- and 2-year-old daughters. Collier County Sheriff's spokesman Jamie Mosbach says the man was acting erratically before the incident.

    Mosbach says the clerk shot the man as he headed toward the door with the child. He was taken to a hospital where he died of his injuries.

    The sheriff's department is investigating.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/1...ughter/?test=latestnews#content#ixzz1bESarUcp

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/1...who-grabbed-daughter/?test=latestnews#content

    Anti-gun progressives would have her disarmed. What would they say to her, if the man kidnapped her child and murdered the baby girl because she was unarmed?

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    Standard attempt at tabloidism! Why aren't you referring to how gun prevalence impacts on the probability of violent crime against family members?
     
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    Good outcome...............


     
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    Though the use of tabloidism isn't. To tut at the pro-gun herd we could refer to gun owners that kill their spouse and then humph about it. That would be equally as useless for the debate
     
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    Every time they raise the threat of banning guns.... which won't ever happen... Guns sales got thru the roof.

    Its a marketing ploy.
     
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  7. Reiver

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    I'm not in favour of gun bans. However, tabloidism is typically used to avoid rational debate over gun control.
     
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    Fox news isn't a tabloid, so your attempt at a serious argument fails out of the gate.

    Because I'm posting a story about a women protecting her child. Why aren't you wishing her well?


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    Fox certainly employs tabloid techniques. One would have to be rather naïve to suggest otherwise. Its also very good at it, as shown how easily it manipulates the right wing vote

    Why aren't you sending condolences to all of the families that have lost loved ones because of the crime costs from gun preferences?
     
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    In this case, it is good the woman was armed. She was able to protect her baby. Guns can be a good thing, as this story shows, but it depends on the person using them.
     
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    That's true in anything.

    Guns are tools, the morality of their use dictated by the user. Criminals will get guns regardless of the law; it behooves us as citizens of a free society here in the U.S. to possess the means of personal defense.
     
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    Every mainstream media outlet does a certain level of tabloidism ("If it bleeds it leads", for example); it's just that most skew the other way, manipulating the left wing side of things.

    Your doubletalking nonsensical econometric drivel is not relevant here.

    Too many families lose loved ones because they fail to take responsibility for their own security.
     
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    hmmmm, how long until we hear she is brought up on charges?
     
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    Remember reading something from Kleck about how the gun control debate can also be skewed by the emotive reaction to spree killing event. This subject is too important for such nonsense. A long term policy of objective study will encourage rational gun control, subject of course to two constraints: influence costs (as pro-gun groups attempt to coerce a result to the detriment of the individual) and anti-intellectualism (e.g. the Fox effect)

    I see you've gone for the anti-intellectual choice.

    The study into crime effect necessarily includes the impact of self-defence (and the deterrence effects it creates). We have two aspects. Visible cases used for tabloid gain; overall effects that show how gun control saves lives.
     
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    Such a statement has no legitimate data to buttress it. On the contrary, data clearly indicates that gun control has no beneficial effect on violent crime.
     
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    You're only demonstrating that you haven't used objective literature review methods. Given you do that regularly you can save your keyboartd on this one!
     

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