Climate deniers don't deny climate change any more

After the hottest year on record in 2023, this article explores what is in store for 2024 and beyond. Most importantly - the need for action!

https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/the-2024-climate-crisis-forecast

The 2024 climate crisis forecast
After the hottest year on record, what can we expect—and what must we accomplish—in the year ahead

And while all these commitments are terrific, we are past the point where words alone are going to make a difference for the planet. We are running out of time to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and halt the acceleration of climate change
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Renewable energy will surpass coal power as the primary energy source next year. But if we intend to meet our climate commitments, we need to do so more urgently.
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We have already seen insurance companies backing out of providing ordinary coverage in places like Florida and California, by requiring property owners to pay extra charges to insure their homes.
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We are witnessing storms, wildfires and other climate-related disasters destroying forests, mangroves, and landscapes that help sequester carbon and break up storm surges. And in turn these valuable ecosystems are becoming even more susceptible to climate impacts
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By the time we get to Baku, we want the world to be decisive and aggressive in eliminating fossil fuel emissions, investing in impactful innovation, and moving forward on ambitious goals to curb the climate crisis.

 

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But what causes the increase in temperature?

 

That is not my claim.

 

The temperature chart "looks" harmless enough.

But it looks that way only because very important context is ignored. This is how Global Warming Denialists work...present data in an incomplete fashion only to claim "See, it isn't that bad"

 

LOLOLOL! Precisely the opposite, the global warmers graph temperature anomalies instead of temperature. And then compress the temperature axis to exaggerate the issue.

 

No, you expand the temperature axis to minimize the issue.

 

Knock yourself out!

I'll be right here not caring.

 

I made no such claim. You simply made it up. It's a very common disingenuous strawman fallacy from those pushing CO2 climate narrative propaganda. We don't know if CO2 is responsible for 1%, 5%, 20%, 50%, 80%, 95%, or 99% of the post-LIA global warming, or some other number. But the scientifically realistic position that it is probably well under 50%, and thus does not justify radical measures to reduce use of fossil fuels, is not a claim that it is 0%.

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

<sigh> You really don't know any of the relevant science, do you? The Combined Gas Law (which you could Google to advantage) informs us that Venus's surface temperature is high mainly because its atmosphere is 100x thicker than the earth's, not because it is CO2. Mars has more CO2 in its atmosphere than the earth, but it is far colder because its atmosphere is 100x thinner.

 

You mean the claim that I did not make, and is a bald fabrication on your part? That claim?

The Combined Gas Law.

As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"

 

You mean another in the very long and growing list of claims that I did not make, and you have simply fabricated and falsely attributed to me? That claim?
Or is that just more bluff and guff as usual?

 

No. The evidence is your constant and relentless baldly false claims about what others have plainly written. Really, your nonscience is so completely despicable, people might wonder if you are secretly shilling for the realist camp.

You made that up. I don't claim more knowledge than those who disagree with me, just clearer understanding. And my studies in planetary physics and astronomy were at an internationally respected university, which is why I am able to constantly cite scientific facts that prove you wrong.

 

Why don't you ever quote the claims you claim others have made?

Oh, wait a minute, that's right: you know perfectly well that they made no such claims, and they are all just outright fabrications on your part.

 

Mirror time.

 

Wrong. Your refusal to know facts of objective physical reality cannot alter them, sorry.

 

Mity thrives on strawman arguments. To avoid the actual arguments

 

Burning fossil fuels increases the CO2. But the temperature isnt even getting close to the speed of the increase in temperature seen at the end of the last ice age 130,000 years ago. We havent even yet reached the temperatures at the end of the last 4 ice ages.

 

So what were the temperatures at the end of the last 4 ice ages, and were they more or less than 50 degrees C. And did you measure the temperature with a thermometer or with your finger?
Either way, it's totally irrelevant to the recent increase in global temperatures and the increases in atmospheric CO2 during my lifetime. And on the timescale of 450,000 years on your graphs, those recent increases are virtually instantaneous compared with over 1000 years on the graphs of your precise meteorological data you have personally collected for 450,000 years.

 

I didnt make any of the measurements. And can you not read the chart? Last ice age was 4 point something warmer. One before that 3 degrees warmer, before that 2 point something warmer.

 

I don't think many people deny it. Greenhouse effect is PROVEN SCIENCE.
What I think people do is comment on how its used as a political weapon and then AUTOMATICALLY those people are labeled as "not believing in climate change"
THIS is why we'll never get the problem solved. Until they make this a team effort, its gonna get worse, and worse, and worse until we have to live underground for a few centuries and at that point, instead of trying to fix it, it will just be about the blame game
Haven't you gotten the memo? no hope for humanity, lol

 

So why do you just grasp at straws and avoid the actual arguments about the recent increases in global temperatures and atmospheric CO2?

 

Hmmmm!!!
So how did they measure the temperatures 450,000 years ago, and did they use a thermometer, or did you use their fingers?

 

Just more bluff and guff as usual, and your lack of scientific knowledge from your primary school classes 50 years ago, and that the CO2 in Venus's atmosphere is the cause of the high surface temperature from the green-house effect.

 

Just more bluff and guff as usual.

 

None of that usual bluff and guff changes the increase in global temperatures and atmospheric CO2 and climate change in my lifetime, which is the physical reality.