Climate deniers don't deny climate change any more

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  1. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is my issue. And yours. And everybody's. Because, at this point, "renewable" sources are unreliable and nowhere near plentiful enough to do the job.

    Yet you continue to cheer on the suicide of our society because of "climate change".
     
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    Nope. Nothing in that.
    Where are the error bars to show the variance and statistical probability of the data. Where are the "materials and methods" to be able to replicate the data and the statistical probabilities, and how you measured the solar activity in 1700.
     
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    Unvaccinated people have contracted Covid with nothing other than symptoms of a common cold. My 66 year old brother for one.
     
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    Nope, It's not my issue, since I have a roof top solar system and drive an electric car, and the fossil fuel power stations are being replaced with renewable energy sources.
     
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    It turns out that most of Venus's "extra" surface heat is due to the adiabatic compression caused by the high pressure, the next most is caused by extra solar radiation, and greenhouse effect is a distant third.
    How Hot is Venus?, by Roger Bourke White Jr., copyright May 2006 (whiteworld.com)
     
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    And many unvaccinated people are pushing up the daisies now too, whereas, unlike my grandson and Dettol Trump, I didn't even have the symptoms of a common cold when I tested positive.
     
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    So what's that got to do with the very strong correlation between increases in global temperatures and increases in atmospheric CO2 from human activity in my lifetime, and zero correlation with solar activity? And the greenhouse effect from Venus's CO2 is still a source of global heating on Venus. And without the atmospheric CO2, Venus's night temperature would be well below zero degrees, like Mercury's,
     
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    What a pathetic and contemptible attempt to evade actual science.
     
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    It doesn't exist, as already proved, and your lifetime is a subjective, arbitrary, and unscientific interval, as already proved.
    That's been proved false, too.
    But it would be about the same no matter what the gas, because it is so thick -- as already explained so very clearly and patiently, to so little effect.
     
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    I didn't SAY ZERO I said a small effect. ~ 3-5 percent
     
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    . Exaggeration for effect :lol:
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    And ~100x thicker...[/QUOTE] yep
     
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    Any scientist who claims the current Covid vaccines do not prevent infections destroys any previous credibility by making that claim.

    Unfortunately, infection prevention is not as robust as hoped.
     
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    ??? YOU are the one who brought in the subject of venus in this debate. Its gone terribly for you so now for you venus is irrelevant to the debate
     
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    And none of that changes the unequivocal fact that there is a very strong correlation between increases in global temperatures and increases in atmospheric CO2 from human activity in my lifetime, and zero correlation with solar activity?
     
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    IOW the atmospheric CO2 on Venus and Earth increases the surface temperatures by the "green-house" effect.
     
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    In the same way, no vaccine prevents infections by small pox or any other virus. Vaccines stimulate the immune system to produce antibodies against the virus for when we do become infected.
     
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    Do you have any evidence produced through application of the scientific method that neutralizing antibodies do not exist and do not prevent enveloped virus attachment/entrance to human cells?

    Do you have any evidence infection and disease in the context of virology are terms we can conflate without violating known tenets of immunology?
     
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    Ask a virologist.
     
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    Why? I don’t need a virologist. I’m well aware of how vaccines work. You are the one making unsubstantiated claims that conflict with published evidence produced by specialists in virology, epidemiology and immunology. I’m not.

    Can you provide any evidence for your unsubstantiated opinion that vaccines do not prevent infections?
     
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    Hmmmm!!!

    So how do vaccines prevent viruses from entering the body?
    And what scientific evidence do you have to support your hypothesis that vaccines prevent viruses from entering the body?
     
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    There is more than enough renewable capacity to power the current energy needs of the entire world. Harnessing this energy is the challenge; and it is a challenge that is being met by many countries. One roof at a time. Many strategies concurrently.
     
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    Not even the environmentalists worst fascist tendencies can make that a true statement.

    But good luck. Particularly when EPA loses its right to regulate CO2 in June.
     
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    What scientific evidence do you have to support your hypothesis that a virus in your body is equivalent to an infection? That’s an interesting opinion. Can you substantiate it?

    Can you provide evidence prokaryotic viruses in your gut micro biome constitute an infection and are not in fact resident viruses?

    Can you provide evidence you are a plant or a bacteria and not human?
     
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    Why do you hate innovation, energy independence, and financial security? Why do you love the oil and coal industries?
     
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    If you're actually interested, ask any reputable virologist or medical practitioner how vaccines work, since you obviously don't know.
     
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