Clinton winning popular vote

The founders didnt like the idea of political parties yet they started them , Go figure

 

Trouble with your argument is, no one including yourself has ever proven that fabrication. So, to keep pedaling such nonsense just exposes your own weaknesses to this argument. You should try another excuse. That one is lame and too dried up for lack of proof.

Like I said, you are just proving your own weakness by displaying your own fabrication, of which you cannot defend. Not only is there not a million illegal vote, you or anyone else out there can't prove it. It's just another fabrication by the Right, along with all the others.

 

Where else are people supposed to come together and assemble to support and promote their political views and causes? You know that freedom of assembly the founding father instilled in the Constitution?

 

When there is a campaign that rallies America in one direction, that DOES have lasting impact. People have every right to consider that campaign as being what the candidate stands for. They have every right to consider that as being the direction that the candidate will lead. Those campaign elements are what the people voted for, and they now have every right to expect America to carry through on those elements.

In this case, Trump was elected on the grounds of his multi-year campaign. That doesn't now just evaporate. We now have an America that has winning leadership that has led toward an America divided on the bases of race, ethnicity and religion. And, he has followed through on that with his selection of leaders - the largest step beyond talk that he could take so far.

That IS where we are.

 

Nothing you have said comes close to giving the leader of the platform of the alt right the highest position in forming US policy.

I called you on straw dogs.

And, I will label you for that if that continues.

 

What exactly is the leader of a platform of a non existent group? Where has this platform been voted on by this group you are claiming and where can I read a copy of it?

 

Trump is the leader of his campaign. His platform is not really written down, as his web site has been rather fluid. What we have is the many months of his statements plus his selections for his government.

We voted on that in early November.

Do you disagree?

 

That was the Republican party platform, I'm talking about this group YOU are talking about and their platform which you are talking about.

Try again

What exactly is the leader of a platform of a non existent group? Where has this platform been voted on by this group you are claiming and where can I read a copy of it?

 

Only people who are ideologically blind refuse to see plenty of evidence around. Perhaps because all those cheating and fraudulent actions suit their hidden agendas. No need to go further than California. As far as informed people know California has issued millions of drivers licences to undocumented immigrants.

This is something every decent American should worry about. One man, with his evil globalist agenda, trying to change the U.S system for HIS OWN BENEFIT.

Leaked Documents Reveal Expansive Soros Funding to Manipulate Federal Elections
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams...oros-funding-to-manipulate-federal-elections/

 

No, I'm not referring to the Republican party platform.

I'm referring to the platform that every candidate who runs for any office communicates through their statements, writings, meetings, associations and other acts that define their campaign.

 

Driver's licenses is off topic. It's a matter of preferring people get licensed to drive, rather than having them drive without having been tested.

I'm in favor of serious campaign finance reform, and would suggest you write your congressmen about that.

As for changing the US system for someone's own benefit, I'd point out that as of today the plan for the second half of January onward is for there to be no line between the US executive branch and Trump business.

I don't know the specific ways that will change US policy, but there is certainly no reason to believe that the next executive branch administration will have objectives that are counter to personal wealth acquisition for Trump enterprises.

 

guess what, the average guy doesn't care. You are pissing in a fan.

 

Many people embrace the basic principles of this new alt right tag. Economic nationalism, put America and her people FIRST. Let those other politicians in those other nations put their nation first. This was once called common sense, and responsibility.

In regards to Bannon he embraces putting our people first, as well as cracking down on the corruption in DC which is prolific, with much of it legal. He is not a racist, bigot homophobe. For if you put the evidence that he is on one side and the evidence that he is not, the has not side wins hands down.

Trump has not made disparaging remarks unless it was in response to some jerk who deserved the remarks. And he has never made racial slurs, or attacks. This is a contrived delusion of the MSM and some on the left. He is not politically correct, which many americans love because they are tired on the nonsense from the left, with their Play Dough, 40 personal pronouns and their safe spaces from the reality they are not strong enough to deal with.

You have a man who does not fake it, one person in private and another person, the lie, in public. And some people want trump to act like something he is not, a fake, a man driven by focus groups, who puts up his finger to see how he has to lie to the people today to please them. Many people like this about him, for he seems real, unlike most politicians.

Trump will work hard on making America great again. But both parties will fight him hard when he tries to change the policies the new robber barons already paid for. Neither party owes the people anything, but remain in debt to the elites. Trump hardly owes a few elites anything. So, he is free to fight for what he ran on. He wants to stop the dems, the repubs, from selling out the people the dems once represented and stood up for. And the Hillary dems cannot stand him for it. They cannot come out and say that, so they have to resort to the lies, that he is racist, sexist, homophobe. That is all they got. And it has worked for them so well in the past, so it is their mode of operation. But it is losing its power.

 

This election was an important statement of where we are - just like every past election has been.

It's not possible to simply ignore that.

May I point out that the fan isn't pointed at me?

 

people don't care about the statement you think is being made. They have bigger problems.
the average guy is not racist and he doesn't care about your plea to emotion. In fact he resents you for calling him names while he's struggling.
But please, continue doing it. It will (*)(*)(*)(*) him off even more.

 

So, once again you embarrass yourself while producing zero evidence illegals are voting. Ideologically blind? Lol! That's a good one. You boss, are factually incompetent, and couldn't tell the truth if you had to.

 

Hillary actually won the election, not just popular votes. The Feds control the election.

This news is just a comforting news to relax the angry mood of public. The Feds have a whole set of psychological tactic to deal with people.,

 

GEEZ where do you people learn this stuff. The STATES control their individual elections the Feds have NOTHING to do with them.

 

No that is NOT what you were saying you were saying he was running on the platform of a particular group, are you withdrawing that now?

 

Are you serious? What's your source for that?

 

I think you are misinterpreting something I said. If you really want to make this discussion about what I said, please cite my offending post.

I don't believe party platforms as passed at the conventions mean absolutely nothing, but they don't guide the candidates and elected presidents ignore them. Also, they don't guide congress - Ryan doesn't follow the platform, for example.

The presidential campaign in all it's glory is the definition of what a candidate stands for - it is their message to the people. If that was all a lie, then the candidate is a liar.

 

I believe that there must be federal laws/regulations regarding conflict of interest for federal positions, most likely there are other options but a blind trust must be one of these.

In America the right to privacy, to be left alone is prized and an American birth right. I suspect if anyone's tax return belied gross, willful and wanton criminal behavior the IRS would be all over that individual or entity. By righteously exercised liberty I mean to be prudent and exacting, restrained by self discipline and self control while choosing good pursuits. Who is truly freer? The one who is controlled by his desires or the one who has mastered his?

I believe the EC is efficient and operating as designed. I am not for any state's representative(s) being taken away or added to beyond the process and enumeration presently found in the constitution.

I still side with our Constitution. Why change it? It functions as designed, It has and still continues to serve all Americans as it was designed to do. Dems are upset that they lost the presidency, the house and senate. The EC is not the cause, Popular vote (presidency) is like hits in baseball or first downs in football. A statistic but not how winning is measured.

 

And only 3 out of the last 5 by a majority of the American people.

Why don't you trust the American people?

I thought conservatives were big on that sort of thing.