Conservatives, Independent Voices Build Own Platforms To Counter Big Tech Censorship, Managed News

In the first sentence, you call my argument emotional, in the second you get personal. You really don't have ANY idea how you've contradicted yourself, do you? That's on top of the fact that I have no idea anymore what you're talking about.

How much are you paying either the government OR PF.com to exchange in the free flow of ideas here in this forum right now?

I am utterly baffled at you performing one thing and at the same time denying it exists.

 

You have been calling me authoritarian for how many posts now? You made this personal awhile ago. And I think that says more about you than it does me. I can explain what prior restraint is, and why the US doesn't really have it. Especially when it comes to promoting political violence. Can you do the same?

I have no clue what you're trying to say right now.

 

Nah, folks are just sick of the lefty propaganda media.

 

And? So what?

 

Oh what delicious and ironic projection.

If we were really wrong about them they wouldn't have to censor us. I found your safe Space by the way...

 

When your stance is that conservatives need a safe space, that it;'s okay to drive them out of social media platforms THEN mock them because they've been driven out? When you're proud that there's only one side of a conversation on said platforms and you're happy with it because it's your side? Authoritarian pretty much describes mandating that only one viewpoint exists. I keep telling you - own it, because you agree with that very philosophy.

I'll keep it brief: What IS the free flow of ideas if not two people arguing over what is right and what is wrong, such as what you are doing and what just about everyone else is doing on this very forum right at this moment?

You say it doesn't exist when you're participating in it right this very moment.

And when you're for ONE viewpoint being allowed and ANOTHER being forced off any kind of platform - I say again, that is nothing else BUT authoritarian. There is no other way to describe it.

I don't even wanna know how I am "a person who was systemically denied knowledge (aka epistemological violence)"

 

He will probably just say you're putting forth a "logical fallacy".... And then just keep repeating the same thing anytime you challenge that

 

Folks want a media they can actually watch without getting sick.

 

Heh, I usually use the Logical Fallacy thing but only on one poster who keeps posting them like there's no tomorrow.

I'll say it again - the insanity of the people condemning this. I mean, imagine that alluvasudden the mods here started censoring all the LW posters here maybe 90% of the time. I'm thinking right about then Kranes and Light would start thinking about going to, I dunno, DU or some other LW site. And then as they complained about it, I could say to Kranes, "Hey, off you go to your safe space, pal!" and you could say to DL "Whatta bunch of victims!"

But y'know, PF starting to promote RW posts and posters - well, THAT certainly wouldn't be seen as authoritarian THEN, would it?

Sometimes I think the LW here has absolutely zero sense of proportion.

 

You're right - I have suggested it many times - but they should be prepared for the unintended consequences, and I think they will find
they may end up with more restrictions than the present platforms as hackers and trolls target them.

 

What?

My position is that conservatives are full of it and are being hypocritical. Decrying safe spaces when they need them themselves. And the tacit admission they are in a 'position of weakness' is a laughable one. Banning people for engaging with misinformation is not the same thing as denying an entire group of people their political opinions. And once again, authoritarianism is a scale. Saying that people engaging in harmful speech should be punished doesn't mean I am authoritarian. It just means I define freedom differently. France, Germany, the UK, and Canada all have laws on prior restraint. Are you denying they are liberal democracies?

Because I'm making a distinction that not all censorship is equal and why censorship in some cases might be okay and not others. For example, it's reasonable to keep college level textbooks out of elementary school libraries, even though it might be considered censorship. What I'm trying to do is explain why that's okay with epistemological silencing and epistemological violence.

Yeah but why on political ideology grounds? That's where it gets weird.

 

She*

 

You make zero sense.

There is no "victim" here, except perhaps our children at the hand of Democrats and the Public Unions.

Democrats have targeted institutions and we are seeing the results in total failure of our education system, run away bureaucracies, Big Tech trying to change elections, etc.

 

Exactly.

If something has to be misrepresented and slandered in order to bully people away from supporting it...well...its clear it wasn't a "disconnect with the rest of society" that cause it to fail.

 

They are not at all more free than the U.S. Your entire argument is built upon a false premise. You mock conservatives because you create fallacious perspectives built upon false foundations and strawmen instead of arguing the merit of the conservative point of view. You conflate safe space with free space as if they are the same lol, they aren't.

The reason the left needs to censor the right, is because they lose debates when they dont censor.

 

Moving goal posts again. Your Leftist friend claimed the Democrats were not the party of Wall Street and I proved different. Now you make a totally off the wall attack. It's the Democratic Party that is being currently rejected nationwide by all polls. Democrats have failed on virtually every subject and topic in one quick year.

 

My link proved exactly who gets more Wall Street $ and it's the Democrats... now look at you run from it.

 

Good. Keep political BS to political sites and not mainstream Social media.

 

That's not even close to what your claim is. Gets indicates multiple elections. You cited one election. In fact your source says the opposite is true, the dems don't get a "lions share". They barely got over half in 2020 and since President Obama Republicans have gotten more. I'm not running. I'm calling you out on your claim.

 

Shouldn't you go to your safe space?
Afterall, you started a thread that was a lie about jobs lost. When in fact it was huge jobs gains.

 

Yes, they do.
And they don't know how to follow rules.

 

Follow the rules of the service one wants to use and there will be no issues.

 

The US freedom house score in 2021 was 83/100. This is down from 2017 when the score was 89/100.
https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-states/freedom-world/2021

France 2021:90/100
UK 2021: 93/100
Germany 2021: 94/100
Canada 2021: 98/100
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores

 

Unfortunately I don't think they do sometimes.

 

Can't follow rules, don't blame no one but the rule breaker.
Simple.

Or just use them for it's initial intent.
Keep up to date with family and friends. Post pics of wedding, births, birthday parties etc. I bet one won't get banned.