Coronavirus drug endorsed by Trump causes no heart complications despite previous concerns, study fi

A controversial drug taken by Donald Trump to ward off the coronavirus may be safer than sceptics initially thought, research suggests.

The president announced in May he had been taking the anti-malarial medication hydroxychloroquine for a week and a half, causing first-time prescription rates and online searches for the therapy to soar.

Hydroxychloroquine is not approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, in the UK or US.

The World Health Organization (WHO) stopped testing the drug after a Harvard study found patients on hydroxychloroquine were more likely to develop de-novo ventricular arrhythmia, the sudden onset of abnormal beating in the lower chambers of the heart.

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This can cause the heart to beat too fast, preventing oxygen-rich blood from reaching the brain or triggering a cardiac arrest.

A team of European scientists has since found, however, hydroxychloroquine was not associated with deadly heart rhythms among patients with a low risk for arrhythmias.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/me...ite-previous-concerns-study-finds/ar-BB19oHWv

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How many people died because liberals ignorantly denied the effectiveness of this drug?

 

~ I believe the president is taking a daily prophylaxis dose of Hydroxychloroquine.

 

I expect the usual flood of "Believe-OUR-scientists!" screeds at any moment.

 

The study only suggests that hydroxychloriquine does not contribute to heart issues, it doesn't say that the drug is at all effective in treating or preventing
Covid.

 

The US and the UK are the only countries that arent using it during the early stages of the disease. You'd think a drug that's been in use for a wide variety of illnesses for over sixty years would have turned up significant heart issues prior to this.

 

~ Hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment in the beginning of infection. It has worked fairly well as a prophylaxis in India and Africa - just no official study yet - only observational. Even if it lowers risk by 50% it would be of value to the elderly .
No treatment works all the time on all patients. Patients are always free to refuse treatment .

~ There are indeed doctors who use it in the U.S. Some states restricted the availability. ( New York )

 

No official study means it may just be as effective as placebos - or less. You have no idea. It the basis for every snake-oil salesman that has ever existed.

 

Some say the likely reason for so few cases of Covid in Africa is the fact that so many there use HCQ for anti-malarial properties.

 

Probably not. India has a high rate of Malaria yet it has also seen a large, and growing, number of Covid cases.

 

The question would be how many take HCQ in India, and on what level? In Africa many people take it often, at least according to some.

I took it frequently during my year in Vietnam. They told us to take it to prevent malaria.

 

The Navy took what they told us was quinine but could easily have been that (easier to say aloud). Ah, those halcyon days when we couldn't argue but accept the shot anyway. National service, eh?

 

Though I was Army, we operated from a Navy base in the Mekong Delta, and so we officers ate in the Navy mess, a much better place than the Army mess.

They had the pills in bowls by the doorway and encouraged everybody to take one a day after the meal.

 

Army guys reputedly still do KP when they can't play Chair Force and hire it done by civilians. Been awhile since I could even check that.

I've eaten in Air Force mess halls, Navy, Army and one multi-service facility where a Marine kicked everybody's butt peeling potatoes. (Another story indeed.)

But you're right about Army chow. I'll be kind to a fellow vet and just say I wouldn't even feed it to a liberal.

 

~ You can tell that to doctors and their patients that used Hydroxychloroquine.

~ Man that sounds sad .. .

~ In India it is mostly healthcare workers taking it.

 

what ****ing moron wrote this bit of trash journalism??

If he does NOT know what Ventricular Tachycardia is or does he not should be writing about it

Multiple trials have shown it is useless but that does not stop people trying to justify its use based on the fact that Trump once upon a time said it might work

Notice how even atrump is no longer touting it ?

 

Above, I predicted "believe OUR scientists!" screeds. Lawdy, lawd, it be gratifyin' to see my dream come true! I agree with your other points and childishly insist on swapping mess hall stories.

I believe deep in my squidly soul that army chow is an act of revenge.

I spent three glorious months in the world's largest cornfield with lights, India-no-place, where at that time the Army Fort Benjamin Harrison did all sorts of Army stuff and also hosted the multi-service Defense Information School teaching officers and enlisted the various needs of military journalism and public relations. I was six weeks behind Al Gore, who had flunked out of divinity school and my class was in stitches as this Light Colonel from the 101st Airborne described the experience. Funny stuff.

I lost ten pounds. And my spending money eating out of machines on-base. National service!

 

And, of course, your reference is a peer-reviewed scientific publication called Breitbart, right?

What nonsense!

 

Is some say the brother of many say?

 

You uave to admit this is Trump's fault. Had Trump publicly stated that hydroxychloroquine is not effective in treating coronavirus people would be screaming why isn't hydroxychloroquine being prescribed for coronavirus.

 

How many people have been saved by this drug? The only thing your source say is, "A team of European scientists has since found, however, hydroxychloroquine was not associated with deadly heart rhythms among patients with a low risk for arrhythmias."

 

This is complete ignorance of how science works.

From your source

"A team of European scientists has since found, however, hydroxychloroquine was not associated with deadly heart rhythms among patients with a low risk for arrhythmias."

Science doesn't work based on hunches. It doesn't get everything right the first time. But it gets it right more often than not. And the question is if more lives would be saved or lost by taking this drug.

The effectivity of this drug is, at a minimum, highly questionable. No significant positive effects have been established. But if a large part of the population started taking it to "prevent" Covid, the number of deaths could have been enormous.

Trump's claim was absolutely irresponsible. It incentivized people who weren't even infected to self-medicate with a potentially hazardous drug. And it would remain irresponsible even if some day it were determined that it helped. His ignorance has cost thousands of lives. But it could have cost many thousands more if scientists hadn't stopped this nonsense.

 

Where in there does it say how they came up with their conclusions. Based on that, how can you say this is complete ignorance of how science works?

Where in there does it say the study was based on hunches?

As far as this being a dangerous drug, all drugs are dangerous. This drug is probably less dangerous than most. It has been in use for decades.

 

Why do you ask me? Ask the poster who wrote the OP

 

I can't find anyone except you who said they came to these conclusions on a hunch

 

I'm thinking hydroxychloroquine used for malaria is also the reason some African countries have fared better than the US wrt COVID. Still, hydroxychloroquine alone doesn't do much. It does allow Zinc to penetrate the cells and kill the virus. Thus, the drug leaves the door open for people who view dead Americans as a political advantage to prove hydroxychloroquine is ineffective by simply omitting Zinc from the regimen.