Coronavirus: Five more states report cases, as Trump claims virus has been ‘stopped’ and

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by MrTLegal, Mar 6, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He’s just repeating the experts. The threat is low and remains low
     
    jay runner likes this.
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's strange. When China first reported their numbers, many Trump supporters said they were lying and the real numbers were much greater. When the US started getting cases many Trump supporters started saying that China numbers were true and look how they are going down. Now you post the crisis is over in China. When did you start believing the news coming out of China?
     
  3. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was racist, of course.
     
    catalinacat, LoneStarGal and struth like this.
  4. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    China went first, completely into the unknown, and with time China has much better numbers now. With just a bit of time the US will have much better numbers.

    It was quite bad in Wuhan, China for about 9 weeks. I sure was glad it didn't get any worse for them because that would have meant worse for US -- in some proportion considering the difference between the two countries.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
  5. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're just repeating what I wrote in my post. How is it that the news coming out of China is suddenly true when just a few weeks ago the news coming out of China were lies according to many, mostly Trump supporters. Now, my position is that the news coming out of China is probably true now and it was then too. However the measures China took would never be accepted in the US
     
  6. Red Lily

    Red Lily Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    2,861
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It started in China where they disingenuously kept quiet about it for too long. It's now in America and worldwide. Trump is doing everything right and has been from the start, including the travel bans the left labelled as racist and xenophobic.

    He's not downplaying the threat and in an effort to try to dissuade mass panic many of you just don't listen to common sense and prefer to run around with your hair on fire screaming "the sky is falling".

    Some people are their own worst enemies yet still need a scapegoat to blame for their own inadequacies and I guess Trump fits that bill in their mind and that's not only totally illogical it's downright ... (fill in the blank).
     
    LoneStarGal, pol meister and ToddWB like this.
  7. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which travel bans are they?
     
  8. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    5,903
    Likes Received:
    2,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The shills get paid to shill, so no reason for them to let the facts get in their way.
     
    LoneStarGal and Red Lily like this.
  9. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is no ban on travel
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,732
    Likes Received:
    39,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He NEVER said the virus had been stopped stop posting false information. He said the travel for China had been stopped and properly so you should give him credit for it.
     
    Red Lily and pol meister like this.
  11. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, they were not.
     
  12. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Travel to/from China has not been stopped so add that to the list of lies from Trump
     
  13. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
  14. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh you are absolutely spouting bullshit and I will not back down from claiming that he said that and I will not give him credit for lying.

    That was the direct quote and he was absolutely referencing the virus. Not travel.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
  15. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,732
    Likes Received:
    39,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Link him saying he stopped the virus and BTW the "****ing moron" in your post goes a a Rex Tillerson Wikipedia page.
     
    catalinacat and pol meister like this.
  16. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    i would rather listen WHO on china than some fake whistleblower. the fact is WHO was there along with member of CDC for weeks. and they said its slowing down there

    china lackdown large part of country with 50+ millions, yet it still has 90,000+ infection, US hasn't lock down yet, do you think we have less infection compare to china.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
  17. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,732
    Likes Received:
    39,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    yes he did shut it down with exceptions to get the Americans home and facilitate shipments of supplies and personnel to fight it.
     
  18. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,732
    Likes Received:
    39,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Oh just one link

    "It’s a unique set of characteristics showing that President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January.

    Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and by China as racist.

    “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed.

    CNN ran a story warning that “the US coronavirus travel ban could backfire” and have the effect of “stigmatizing countries and ethnicities.”

    The Chinese Communist Party’s official mouthpiece, the People’s Daily, called the ban “racist.”

    WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned it would increase “fear and stigma, with little public health benefit.”"
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/criticisms-of-trumps-coronavirus-response-are-sickening-devine/

    And you would have rather had Joe Biden in charge who would have left those flights and people keep coming in?
     
  19. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Setting aside that Trump's effect on any aspect of the country and especially as regards to this virus is largely driven through his words...

    - Dismantling the pandemic response team last year.
    - Contradicting the CDC recommendation on telling the elderly to stay away from airplanes
    - Refusing to act quicker on ramping up tests and otherwise preparing for the virus
    - Appointing VP, whose main claim to health crisis fame was making an HIVs outbreak worse, to the lead the response
    - Encouraging so much infighting amongst his top officials that the person charged with being the point person for the care of the elderly was originally not part of the response team
    - Demanding so much praise that every official has to repeatedly and explicitly praise trump at every opportunity
    - Making responses to the virus based on political favoritism, like stopping the shipment of COVID patients to Alabama after a pushback from Alabama officials, but not doing the same in Blue States (California, I believe) despite requests from those State officials
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
  20. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes they were. Biden called it xenophobia, and the Post said he overrated when he did it
     
  21. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,933
    Likes Received:
    8,879
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you write that he did shut it down then go on to list exceptions LOL. Americans are still flying in/out of China and there are still shipments hence it's not a ban. Americans are even traveling to Wuham
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
    MrTLegal likes this.
  22. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    close the border didn't stop the virus period. he should prepare way before 33 US state has this virus already. where is the test kits? he saying everybody can get test, yet its contradict to VPs words. he have so many conflict words between him and those work with him, which make the current admin an incompetent one.
     
  23. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joe Biden was not talking about the travel ban from China. He was talking about the plethora of racial based attacks against Asian individuals that Trump's history and rhetoric has explicitly and implicitly encouraged.
     
  24. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The link is in the OP!

    "This came unexpectedly, it came out of China, we closed it down, we stopped it, it was a very early shut down.”

    And yes, the ****ing moron quote does come from Trump's former Secretary of State.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2020
  25. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,732
    Likes Received:
    39,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which link, you got a bunch of them and you don't quote Trump?
     

Share This Page