Couple fined for refusing to host same-sex wedding on their farm

Exactly so. Thanks.

 

Don't leave out that step before the supreme court. It was a Stanford educated, gay San Francisco judge who decided the gays had a constitutional right to government endorsement of their marriages.

 

Even when it was the people of the state who voted by referendum to maintain marriages limitation to men and women, it was Justices accountable to no one who declared the will of the people is irrelevant.

 

EVERY Christian baker who has refused to bake a same sex wedding cake for a homosexual couple, would have also refused to bake a same sex wedding cake for two heterosexuals of the same sex. Their opposition to marriages of the same sex has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It is the limitation of marriage to men and women in their original doctrine, the bible, that is the basis of their opposition.
Refusing to serve any gays, any baked goods would be discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Refusing to serve anyone of any sexual orientation, a cake for a same sex wedding is not discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

 

You should have the same right, but you do not. Discrimination against someone who is a homosexual, will be PRESUMED to be on the basis of their sexuality. Discrimination against a heterosexual, never will be.

 

Family farms are typically both a private home and a business.

 

Yes,I understand that. Same over being white.

 

So what?

 

Gay people are unable to make conscious decisions that exist outside their sexuality.
Like Muslims with their beliefs and Hispanics with their ethnicity

Christian judges, however, are beyond reproach and would never use religious principle to sway their views.

That about sums it up, right Dixon?

 

Most of the judges who decided that gay marriage was a constitutional right were all Christians.

 

I never said otherwise.

 

You are confusing my disagreement with not getting it. I get it. I understand how you feel. I disagree.

Rather than going around in circles, let’s just agree that no one should be forced to alter their course because someone considers their beliefs to be superior. Our agreement stops when a person is acting as a business.
While I don’t understand how someone could believe that god would send their soul to burn for an eternity for loving someone of the same sex, I don’t feel it is right to discriminate against them for that reason. Its not their fault. Their parents beat it into them for many years.
While I don’t understand how someone could be attracted to the same sex, it’s their life and they have the right to pursue happiness.
It’s when someone feels their beliefs are superior and forces it on others that I have a problem. That’s when religion becomes Nazism.
Thanks for the polite conversation.

An example of not allowing others to force their beliefs.

 

Prove it.

 

Declining to bake a cake isn't Nazism, isn't forcing ones beliefs on others. Its declining to bake a cake. Fining the baker 100s of $1000 for refusing to do so might be.

 

Revealing that you consider me writing words on the forum to be an attempt to force my beliefs on you.