Covid Follies #8

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    So, exactly how is it going to be determined that people are "fully vaccinated" to go to a bar, restaurant, etc., without a mask? Do we carry stickers or badges? Geez, did the #CDC realize how many people this is going to piss off, much less validate extremist and nut jobs?

    o_O
     
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    It’s something the left knows well, Papers Please.
     
  3. Bullseye

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    As I understand it, for now, the relaxation applies only to small groups. It’s not for wild and crazy drunkests.
     
  4. kungfuliberal

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    But a bar is a bar, patrons are patrons, and door security is door security. So no matter how small or large the state determines, this unofficial ruling may have dire consequences.
     
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    ~ Color coded masks .
     
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    soon, the masks will disappear, my guess is by july

    the reason it will not be sooner is the lack of organization by state and local governments

    the rollout of the vaccine in many states is a joke ..

    I am over 60, a heart attack and cancer survivor,

    I have not gotten so much as a text message when I can get a vaccine

    I have called my county health department every 3 or 4 days since march 1st

    the only thing they did was ask for my phone number and say I am on the list

    and they also said I should listen to my local radio station for information

    states like Mississippi are vaccinating every person over 60

    I have been humming the johnny cash song lately

    "I'm going to Jackson"

    maybe my next road trip will be to mississippi
     
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    I think this relaxation in more for small groups of family and friends not bars and large parties. I think Biden even emphasized that during his speech.
     
  8. kungfuliberal

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    If I were you, I'd do a lot of research regarding the number of folks having adverse or deadly side affects to the various vaccines before getting jabbed. Also, look into preventative treatment on your own, as the federal agencies have NOT offered anything in that aspect.
     
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    Which is vague in and off itself, because family/friends gatherings can't be regulated unless someone drops a dime on said group to complain about non-mask compliance. So if this covers said gatherings and bars/restuarants, etc....More problems.
     
  10. gringo

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    the federal agencies have suggested only 2 things for preventative treatment of Covid

    1. stay home
    2.when you must go out, wear a mask

    and long before Covid, health professionals suggest eating right, exercise , drink moderately and dont smoke

    the risk of the adverse side effects of the vaccine is a pimple on the ass of being infected with Covid

    yes most get Covid and recover fine...but a half a million did not and are dead and gone

    half million dead people were not vaccinated as far as I have read

    how many are dead after getting vaccinated??

    I am a firm believer that fate determines a persons time on this earth

    when my time comes , I dont want my family to say

    "if he would have gotten the vaccine he may have not died"

    I would rather them say

    "he did everything he could to avoid death but died anyway"

    or

    "he went down swinging"
     
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    deaths post vaccination are still being compiled....to me it's murky because doctors are given license to list cause of death as "covid related", which suggests either the disease killed prior illness patients, or they simply died of these ailments and NOT due to Covid.

    If you're going down swinging, at least do it with the proper equipment:


    https://prn.fm/can-natural-botanical-herbs-supplements-impact-coronavirus/?

    Also, here's food for thought;

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    From the CDC's own website: 80% of ALL covid vaccinations involve an obese person. Now factor in the old and those with pre-existing conditions, the only threat from Covid to most people is the threat of the government stripping rights and killing your business.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Now factor in all the percentages of "old infections", "new infections", people with temporary vaccine potency treatments, no clue given as to preventative OTC and homeopathic methods, doctors mislabeling death by pre-existing condition as "covid related", etc., etc., and you have a hot mess. Now I agree this kills businesses, but what's all this then about "rights" being stripped away?
     
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    I once considered trying the holistic medicines and their approach of fighting cancer..

    despite the claims,I found NO proof that holistic medicines can stop cancer

    holistic meds may improve a persons health.

    but it is not going stop a life threatening illness like cancer or covid

    after some investigations I was shown the miracles of modern medicine and I am alive today..

    as I said, I believe fate determines a persons time on earth

    I also believe only modern medicine will arrest this virus called covid

    if eating a few vitamin pills were effective stopping covid it would have surely been done long ago

    nobody wanted this virus....and every day man becomes more knowledgeable about this virus

    a vaccine is responsible for stopping polio, the measles and many other forms of disease

    I will take modern medicine over holistic medicine any day
     
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    Here in okieland we are starting on the homeless this week...

    As to the op what evidence do you have that closing bars contained the spread? I've seen evidence that working or being in government building was far more dangerous than being in a bar...
     
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    Well, alcohol IS the active ingredient in the recommended "hand sanitizers", soooo it only stands to reason that......
     
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    For now the nut jobs we have to worry about are those who want to go back to normal too early.
     
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    The March 5 VAERS data shows 1524 dead from the shot. Some say it's probably considerably higher.

    Of the 2 dozen+ who've taken it that I know, only 1 dead. Most people do fine, but the long term effects of the experiment remain to be seen.

    Reports of Deaths After Covid Vaccines Up by 259 in 1 Week, CDC Data Show - LewRockwell
     
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    sounds bad

    how many were hospitalized or died because of Covid during the same timeline??

    again, I would rather take a vaccine and be dead than not take a vaccine and be dead

    if I go down it aint gonna be because I am afraid of modern medicine..
     
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    in my state the prison inmates get a vaccine before law -abiding citizens

    the lack of organization by local and state governments is the biggest reason for the vaccine rollouts being a disaster

    and this is not just democrat run states...not many democrats hold office in my state

    and does oklahoma have even one democrat??
     
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    Pick up some blank labels and make your own.

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    Essentially, you've just repeated a lot of supposition and conjecture coupled with "beliefs"....which leads me to suspect your "research" was not comprehensive enough. The internet consists of special interests buying up key words and flooding a general search with the articles that favor their position. Which is why you initially see limited acknowlegements of "complimentary" alternatives to cancers and covid.


    Given your repeat of your beliefs and supposition and conjecture laden speculaltion on alternative medicine, I suspect your "research" regarding cancer (of which I did not bring up) was seriously biased.


    But I digress....the concerns I raised about the current Covid-19 vaccines are valid, because nowhere in my lifetime did the medical profession produce a vaccine that still leaves people carriers of the disease like some of the Covid vaccines claim.....or that the effectives of some is akin to eating chicken soup (like the old addage it couldn't hurt!). Now you and I both know that an increase in Vitamin C is a key strengthener to the immune system, yet I hear nothing from the powers that be regarding increased vitamin intake.

    The link I provided points to time test botanicals that help strengthen the immune system in various aspects, thus helps the natural immune system to "ride out" such things as Covid...keeping it from getting critical. the rushed vaccines you have so much faith in have a questionable rate of side effects....look it up if you don't believe me.
     
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    My State is doing a fine job with the Vaccine rollout. Had my first one last week, second one on 4/1.

    So far I ain't growing a tail.
     
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    Perhaps....I would venture that emphasis should have been put on subsidizing UV filtration units (big and small) and honestly telling people what botanicals, OTC alternatives and such can help reduce the risk of deterioration to a chronic/fatal level instead of just sitting on your butt at home waiting and hoping you don't get worse.
     
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    having 2 siblings in the medical field, one is a doctor and another is a nurse practitioner

    and yes both have received 2 doses of the phizer vaccines..

    I think the advice and information I received about the vaccine is correct

    a person can search the internet and find any answer they wish...

    if you want to believe taking vitamins and holistic medicine will stop covid that is your business

    but I believe that treating a disease with holistic medicine is just "spinning your wheels"

    anybody can do an internet search find a websight that will confirm their beliefs

    just do a search for holistic medicines and Covid...

    your computer will be flooded with cookies and ads will appear selling you super strength all natural cures

    as stated

    I am glad people that took the vaccines for polio and the measles were not afraid of modern medicine

    grow a pair..get the covid vaccine!! lol
     
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