David Hogg pushes Laura Ingraham boycott after Fox News host taunts him over college admissions

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  1. Tim15856

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    Your fallacy is thinking getting rid of the guns will stop the violence. Just as the resident Aussie likes to ignore anything but gun violence, you need to study how well gun bans work. Sure, they will cause gun deaths to drop, but if criminals simply switch to other methods or if crime rates don't drop after guns are taken, then you need to look elsewhere for solutions. I've seen data that shows after guns are taken certain types of crimes go up for the simple fact that criminals have less to fear when they know their victims are mostly unarmed and helpless.
     
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    Bottom line: Australia and the UK do not have school massacres, and THAT is the issue at this time. Anything else you want to discuss is another issue. This thread is about an adult, a media person with, I imagine, a college education, attacking a high school kid who went through a school massacre in his own high school and is speaking out his opinion. Adults attacking kids like this, kids who had 17 of the classmates and teachers murdered in a school massacre....adults doing that (RWrs, the NRA, and media people)is disgusting, beneath contempt. That is the issue here, not crime in any other country.
     
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    Hogg is a leftist tool and the only reason you get upset about the Right criticizing him is because you agree with him. When he calls NRA members child killers, when he manages to get advertisers to pull ads, when he goes on profanity filled tantrums and uses his platform to push an agenda, he deserves to be called out. If you and the rest of the Left don't like it too bad. As much as you hate it, the Right has the same 1st Amendment rights as the Left.
     
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    I get upset because

    1) he is still a teenager, and not some criminal or gangbanger, he's just a normal high school kid;

    2) he went through a massacre at his school where 17 people died, most his contemporaries and classmates;

    3) none of us have gone through something like that at his age and in our school; we owe him respect and compassion;

    4) we are adults, you are an adult, those attacking him are adults and should know better than to attack what is a traumatized young man who has justifiable strong feelings;

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    5) he is getting his rhetoric from the adults and simply using the kind of language and tone he has seen adults use (Right and Left).

    He is not a ‘tool’ of anyone. He is an American who is speaking his mind after experiencing a horrific, murderous event. A mass killing at his school with his classmates and teachers being slaughtered. That you cannot see that and think of him as just a loud mouthed, obnoxious 'tool' says things about you I cannot write on this board.

    He does not deserve to be 'called out.' And now, because of the vicious attacks on him by the RW, he is being threatened with physical violence. His life may even be on the line. This is really what you people want?
     
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    If they spew anti semitism, of course I do.if I heard an ignorant pastor refer to a woman who survived a mass killing as a lesbo butch, I would consider him one of the deplorables,
    I have a sign in my workshop and it says, “how do you deal with the problem if you don’t know you have one” when you compare bigotry to buying a Ford pick up truck I realize I’m wasting my time.
     
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    So well said...and it breaks my heart that adults, who don’t agree with his cause, demean his character.
     
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    He's had to have a character first.
     
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    Lol..I guess you have no idea what a 4.2 average is in a highly competitive high school. I guess to you in A average is not really that good. Well it gives me an understanding of how much you know about education. As Trump said he loves the uneducated. And I don’t care how a student gives the message because I am more concerned about the message. I am aware of the teenagers speak with four letter expletives all the time so don’t be so prissy.
    I have to laugh also at the fact that we have a president of the United States who refers to people as sons of bitches and calls people the most despicable names and refers to women’s ******* and you have the nerve to attack a teenager who speaks like the president? How dare you criticize somebody when you support a leader who talks in such vulgarities. Attack the messenger because you don’t like how he speaks and this way you can ignore the message and you can ignore what he has accomplished and you can ignore and a average is not a top student
     
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    The facts are Emma Gonzales has come out of her safe space and proclaimed she likes going down on other girls.
    She is a lesbo and does have a butch haircutt.
     
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    As your above post demonstrates you post things as facts that you cannot back up. Total fail to prove either of your two statements. So my supposed personal attack still stands as a fact.
     
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    They have to attack because they cannot argue with facts the attacks at least have one positive which is the necessity to use personnal attacks indicates the gun nuts are starting to run scared of actual progress toward sane gun policies in the United States.
     
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    Now that is a personal attack! Turn yourself in please!
     
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    We all know this comes from right wing hate radio....It has for decades...Its all they know..

    El Rushbo and his ditto heads, are just that..........Heads!
     
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    No it doesent
     
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    Anyone but me notice that liberals demand we take these children seriously BUT, at the same time, we aren't allowed to respond or criticize them or their statements?

    Which is it? Should I treat him like a kid of like an adult? Because if he's a kid then he shouldn't get one ounce of TV time except on Nickelodeon or maybe "Kids Say The Darndest Things." If he is an adult, then he doesn't get immunity from criticism.
     
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    It's called grade inflation. Fixed it for you.
     
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    The pathetic tell is your wanting to criticize them or their statements. Why do you people need to criticize people instead of ideas? Is it perhaps, as well illustrated, that you can't deal with ideas so all you have left is personal attacks. Note all the Conservative references on this forum that attack the individuals instead of the ideas!
     
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    Please explain that....you mean someone inflated his grades? You mean the AP classes he took were rigged? G what a surprise that you don’t understand AP classes and honors classes and consider them “inflated grades” I would bet the farm you never took an AP class in your life
     
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    It's called grade inflation. Educate yourself before expressing your fantasies online.
     
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    These are young adults....Perhaps you may feel you belong on the nickelodeon but these young adults who are doing amazing things , on the dumbest days are smarter than the people who put them down o. Their smartest days
     
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    Nah, they're kids and a lot of them are pretty dumb. Just look at those math and science scores.
     
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    And she probably thinks there is nothing stupider than someone who says things like this. She sure is threatening you that you have to sink to this name calling.grow up and maybe one day you’ll be as smart as she is. Probably not more attractive
     
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    And you know how smart she is just how?
     
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    She also said men who have sexual,hangups say things like this
     
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    And her degree in psychology is from where?
     

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