Debunking Trump's claim that all the prosecutions against him are a 'Biden thing'

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    *Copilot, a search engine AI, debunked it easily.
    *Note, before you kneejerk an anti AI snark response, each claim of fact is sourced/annotated. Copilot is an AI SEARCH ENGINE. It's output is based on searches.

    So, if you use a search engine, type out results in a post, linking to a source for your research, what's the difference between you doing it manually, or a computer doing it for you?

    As long as the claims of fact are sourced, there really is no difference.

    could the post be incorrect? Sure,. but that's the whole point, DEBATE. Just rebut, and substantiate your counter argument.

    All that matters is the argument. Do you understand? We are anonymous, there is no 'you' or 'me', there is ONLY THE ARGUMENT

    And for you folks who try to posture your argument by saying you are a 'scholar' or you are a PHD, then post your credentials, because unless you do, I'm not taking anyone's word for anything on the anonymous internet, you are a mere mortal just like the rest of us. Show us your 'cred' in your prose, your words, your ARGUMENT, that's the only thing that matters.

    so debate it. Quit whining about how the data was obtained, IT DOESN'T MATTER. You don't like AI, then quit using a computer, quit driving a car, quit watching TV, Your complaint is ridiculous, Oh, you think AI is 'bland' no 'human personality', I got bad news for you, I'm not here to entertain you, I'm hear to debate, to see who has the best argument, who has the facts, I want to be on the right side of an argument, so I test what I think is correct, and observe the counter arguments. Half of of the comments on this forum are non arguments, a complete waste of Time. The mods tell me to just ignore them. I find that hard to do, actually. I should, however, take their advice.

    So....,

    What's' the difference between riding from Point A to point B in a horse and buggy, or a driving a car?

    Your claiming that the car isn't valid just because it doesn't have the personality of a Horse? That's the gist of arguments, I hear. I'm here to debate ISSUES, FACTS, IDEAS, not 'personality' . I'm not here for entertainment. If you are, find another thread.

    Your claim is basically a kind of luddite response.

    Knock it off. AI is just a computer giving you a faster lift, instead of a volkswagen, you now have a corvette!

    AI is transforming scientific research, enabling faster information synthesis, drug discovery, and breakthroughs in understanding fundamental questions. Your complaints about AI are ABSURD.

    ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE ARGUMENT.

    So, debate it if you disagree.

    DEBATE IS THE POINT. Nothing else matters.




     
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    "Your claiming that the car isn't valid just because it doesn't have the personality of a Horse? That's the gist of arguments, I hear. I'm here to debate ISSUES, FACTS, IDEAS, not 'personality' . I'm not here for entertainment. If you are, find another thread.

    Your claim is basically a kind of luddite response.

    Knock it off. AI is just a computer giving you a faster lift, instead of a volkswagen, you now have a corvette!"


    What are we talking about here!??!
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

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    Those that complain against the use of BING AI, ChatGPT, COPILOT, etc, in their rebuttals.

    I used Copilot in my OP, and some on this forum are going to whine about it because it is AI.

    Argument given. If you don't know what i'm talking about just ignore.
     
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    It is every bit a Biden thing...
    Biden threatened Trump.... and he has turn his weaponized government against American citizens already...
    Biden has weaponized the DOJ (through legitimate efforts of the Constitution).. it is one promise he has kept...
    Listen to the man words... communist dictators say those sort of things
    "We have to demonstrate that [Trump] will not take power if he does run. Making sure he under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, does not become the next president again."
    https://rumble.com/v34w72i-joe-bide...overnment-to-keep-trump-from-running-aga.html

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    AI is just a computer giving FACTS. That's what computers do. Not opinions... computers can't give opinions. They just give facts. The funny thing about facts is that, if they're false, you can easily debunk them. But not by attacking the search engine. By SHOWING that the facts are false.
     
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    AI can simulate opinion giving, you'd be surprised.

    It can simulate consciousness.

    Some have claimed it is 'sentient' but that is nonsense.

    Also, you have to be careful because I've caught it quoting a disinformation site, so you have to fact check every claim of fact.

    Just like all programs, 'garbage in = garbage out', it's all about the caliber of the prompt, and there is an new field called 'prompt engineering', the art of getting good information from an AI program. The more robust the prompt, the more robust the output.

    And you got to my point: attack the message (if you disagree) but not the messenger, the messenger is irrelevant to the debate
     
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    They do simulate it. But they don't actually do it.

    I'm an IT person, not an expert on AI. But my nephew works in the development of AI. In fact, he was one of the first people in the world who actually graduated SPECIFICALLY on AI. And I had this discussion with him. He beat me, of course. It's not real "intelligence". But they fake it very well by giving lots and lots of facts.

    "Simulate" is the operative keyword. It's not real. We just think it is. However, the facts ARE real. In your OP you can see that it is actually only giving facts. But the sentences are structured in such a way that they appear to hint as if they were opinions.

    Yes. I have read articles in which they also simulate sentiment. Anger, frustration, relief, happiness... They simulate them very well, but it's simulated.

    Yes they have! Problem is they internally "score" the credibility of their sources. And, for example, Breitbart.com has one of the lowest ratings. However, when it's something not mentioned anywhere else, they rely on what is available.

    Exactly!
     
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    The new liberal cry..... AI, AI,AI.... what ever happened to Russia, Russia, Russia?
     
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    I think AI should be changed to "SI" simulated intelligence.
     
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