Deconstructing Gender War

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  1. Renee

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    Just your lumping feminists as having a negative attitude toward kindness and beauty shows your true colors.
     
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    No it does not.
    I have been close to a number of women who were both kind and beautiful, and many of them had a hell of a time dealing with Third Wave feminists.
    When I care about someone I adopt their concerns. I did not invent these arguments. I based them on what I heard from women.
    A man who loves a woman will do just that. He is not motivated in this by hatred of women. He is motivated in this by love for the women he loves.
     
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    If you really believe this then you are better than the people I've been talking about. I have been impressed with some younger women these days who are feminists. Maybe feminism has improved since 1990s, but I have known feminists who were absolutely vicious, and I am far from the only one.
     
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    Ah yes, those nasty feminists giving beautiful women a hard time, Another stereotype!
     
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    What you are really saying is that women who are vicious must somehow be feminists and you are equating the words. Yes there are women who are absolutely vicious and there are men who are absolutely vicious but when men are vicious we see them as individuals. Maybe we should just call men who are vicious misogynists .
     
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    It's not a stereotype, it comes from experience.
     
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    I do not like viciousness whoever does it. Not all vicious women are feminists, but if you have a belief structure that teaches you to attack both men and attractive women you are going to be vicious, and that's what we see with Third Wave feminism.
     
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    Your narrow experience? Gimme a break, you’re sounding so catty!
     
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    No, only a misogynist and one who has been damaged sees feminists that way....By the way how many women do you know that are not feminists? A feminist is one who believes in equal rights. And nothing more. I don’t know many women or men who don’t believe in feminism. You seem to be using the rush Limbaugh definition.....those feminazis. Lol
     
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    Women are superior to men, it is a fact of life, get used to it...
     
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    That I don’t agree with. But we sure as hell aren’t inferior!
     
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    No, there are many women who see Third Wave feminists that way likewise. And most of these women are neither stupid nor weak.
     
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    the same people said the exact thing about second wave feminists...been there...same dance , different steps. But these women dissed their sisters but reaped the benefits.
     
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    Second wave feminism was better. My biggest issue with Third Wave feminism is that it has been influencing women to be nasty and mean. I can support many things but not that. I do not see Third Wave feminism benefiting most women. Most women will want to have families. Women being taught to be mean-spirited people makes that hard for many women, and I completely support American men going for women from places like Russia and Brazil to get together with women who either have not had or have rejected that influence.
     
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    I heard the same silliness during the second wave of feminism and the suffragettes heard the same rhetoric Yes women are being “taught to be mean spirited” . I give a course in “being nasty 101. “ I think you had just had bad luck with women which makes you have this negative stereotype.
     
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    I used to hang out at a famous Lesbian bar in N.Y.C. and I even had a reserved spot near the window, and everyone was always very nice to me....

    Ibshambat, You just do not understand.
     
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    No, that is not true. I have known some wonderful women. However the Third Wave feminism has been vicious toward everyone who is nicer and prettier than the Third Wave feminists, and I consider it the labor of love for the women whom I have loved to fight it.
     
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    Oh how stupid...yes third wave feminists are ugly. And they say women are catty and bitchy? Got to tell all those gorgeous Hollywood women who support the women’s movement that they really are ugly. You just perpetuate the stereotypeAnd they say women are catty and bitchy? Got to tell all those gorgeous Hollywood women they Can’t be feminists.. You just perpetuate the stereotype and yet you have the nerve to say you are not a misogynist
     
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    I remember when gay bars were illegal in the city. My best friend was gay and she went to a club in the village and she didn’t want to go alone so I went with her. I was engaged at the time so I kept flaunting my ring
     
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    Great men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson wrote that All Humans are Created Equal. In 2017, some Gender Feminists consider the male half Humankind to be inferior. The saddest part is the fact that there are men who attempt to obtain certain favors by being enablers. For instance a man who wrote this article.
     
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    Maybe not all of them are ugly, but most of them are vicious to women who are kind and attractive.
    And no, I am not a misogynist. I am not motivated in this by hatred of women. I am motivated in this by love of women I love.
     
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    I love them enough that I am willing on their behalf to take on people like the Father's Lobby. And believe me these people are nasty.
     
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    A person who describes feminists as you do is one who is so misogynistic..sees women as so vicious. Of course women who believe inEqual rights for women are all ugly and vicious.lol. You can fool yourself, but you are not fooling me.
    I bet you hate successful and good looking men.
     
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    Equal rights is fine. Breaking up families, putting innocent people behind bars and - well - accusing people of being misogynists who aren't, is not. Equal rights will mean treatment based on your character. You teach women to have bad character, they will not be treated well. So what you are doing is completely self-defeating.

    No I do not. Read my response to this in the other thread.
     
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    This is an interesting video and I read and own the book in my collection and he is right, largely, and the West is dying and Islam is winning, which was held back by a strong Western society as aggressive as they were and more.

     
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