Defund the police? I can somewhat agree..

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  1. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    What first comes to my mind is the "war on drugs". How long has this been going on and has been a complete failure? Busting someone and ruining their lives over a burnt joint (some states) found in the car ashtray? Let's retreat from this war and divert those funds for treatment for the harder drugs.
     
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    Law enforcement enforces the law. Change the law, but don't ask the police to selectively choose what laws to enforce.
     
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    Cops choose daily what laws they are going to enforce but I get your point. Defunding police would do what I am supposing though.
     
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    It would also result in them not enforcing other laws.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm kind of behind the decriminalization of drugs, let Darwin sort them out.

    Unless you legalize and make all drugs cheap and plentiful then it doesn't solve the violence and crime, Just reduces paperwork.
     
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    The drug war is the government spending billions to force individual users to transfer trillions to drug dealers and traffickers.

    Dealers come up with a market price for the risk of imprisonment, and transfer it to the end user.
     
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    Not just the war on drugs. This has to end

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't have to legalize "All Drugs" - Legalizing Pot however would turn 100 Million Criminals in America into Law Abiding citizens - with the stroke of a pen.
     
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    pfft... I say triple down on those chokeholds
     
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    That is coming i suspect.
    From a federal level hopefully.
    Not that I am a huge fan of smelling it when at the store and stuff when near some idiot that had a smokeout in his car before walking in, but I can manage it. (That was the one thing I noticed in wa state)
     
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    I am not so happy when some drunk is misbehaving or some lady with too strong perfume is in the room - but this is not a sound basis for law.

    "Rule of Law" - one person is not to be punished for the actions of another.

    There is justification however for banning things like Meth - Fentenal. The bar is 2/3rds majority - as per the founding principles.
    If some law has 2/3rds majority support as in the case of Meth - it is Legitimate - if there is not - the law is illegitimate.

    My issue with Pot law is that it is Illegitimacy of Authority - Full Stop - do not pass go - do not collect $200.
     
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    We need federal drug centers where people go in and receive any and all recreational drug(s) they want in the quantity they want for free, relax in the dayroom and take the drugs caveat emptor -- no calling the 911 meat wagon but with an open field outside town and a trackhoe operator on standby day and night.
     
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    When you talk to African Americans from poor neighborhoods, they often complain that you never see police there until after there’s a problem. And most of them don’t want their neighborhoods turned over entirely to the gangs, which makes you wonder why so many Democratic politicians seem okay with that.

    Brace for the Backlash.
    WHY SHOULD THEY EVEN HAVE A UNION? Why Are Taxpayers Footing the Bill for Full-Time Police Union Employees?

    I'm for cutting taxpayer funding of folks that work for the police union, the police union can fund those costs from dues.
     
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    NYC, get out of jail free, no bail set for arrested felons, empty the jails out, order the police to stand down during riots, now let's defund them. What could possibly go wrong? NYC in many ways is the capital of the world, in finance, the arts, in culture, education but crime is out of control, murder is up by 50% who is going to want to go there? Not that you can do much anyway with the virus. My dad was from NYC and we used to go there a couple of times a year. We'd always stay at the Park Sheraton in midtown and there were so many things to do and see. You could be out after dark and it was safe, after a show we'd get take out and bring it back to the hotel, best food in the world. It just breaks my heart to see what it's become since Di Blasio got in. He's from Massachusetts, (Marxachusetts) big surprise huh?
     
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    We have family in NYC, they won't even go out at night now for a walk.
     
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    In a vacuum of law enforcement, something will fill it.
    What do you think that will look like? Will there be some overriding principles or will it be vigilante driven.
     
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