Dem Voters on the Dole 'Insulated' on Inflation

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    While inflation hurts most of us, Democrat voters on government support are "insulated" from it – a scheme of dependency and virtual control – according to presidential campaign adviser Dick Morris on Newsmax.

    "What they're doing is borrowing like crazy, spending like crazy, knowing that that will cause inflation and then protecting their constituencies so that there are on protected islands in this frothing sea of inflation," Morris told "Saturday Report." "And to get on the island, you need to vote Democrat; you need to be part of the constituency, and that's a way to insulate their voters from what's happening to the rest of us, and I think that played important role."…








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    This news report reporting on what was said is very interesting. It shows the effects of the democrats being an alliance of the rich and the non or lightly working poor against the working and middle classes. The rich and those on the dole with cost of living increases are not affected by the inflation caused by democrat tax and spending policies while the working and middle classes are devastated by inflation.
     
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    What reporter Eric Mack has Reported Morris as saying is exactly right.
     
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    Yes. The poor stupid voters who just vote for whoever fills their pockets are barely effected by what has happened. They have nothing really to lose.

    The sinister part is Democrats have so much to gain trying to get as many into that category as possible. It’s so ****ing evil and the MSM simply won’t say it Because they’re in their pocket.
     
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    Do you include Social Security in your definition of government support?
     
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    i'm sure morris said it, but there is 1 big problem. the south is full of trump voters "on the dole." are thet "isolated on the island of dependency" or are they hard working under the table paid in cash in between binges of medicaid opiate and home cooked methamphetamine?

    isn't morris the guy who got lewinsky that job at the white house?
     
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    Social security you receive depends on the social security deposits you have paid in. It's not welfare or freebies, but drawn against your paid premiums.
    The system is not as stable as it should be- but that is because the government's promise of "investing your social security payments" is actually loaning themselves the money, and the plan overall, rather than being sound from the beginning as the laws would require of an insurance company, is perpetually coming up short.... But that is the way government does most everything. Poorly planned, poorly managed and wasteful.

    On the other hand, concepts like student loan forgiveness is free money, and use taxpayer money to pay off personal loans for individuals in that category- with no return benefit tot he taxpayers funding the loans. . The politics of the left would do many things like that, and the result of that is deficit budgeting; not paying as you go. Try that as an individual or a company, and sooner of later you are bankrupt.

    The real problem with government is not collecting enough tax- but spending as if the tax money was an endless and unlimited river of cash. They see no limit, and by giving money away- they buy vote loyalty which insures the people incapable of managing the government's finances stay in power to continue mismanaging the government's finances. That's the core problem with the nation's economic situation.
     
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    You're seriously explaining SS to me, someone who worked for almost five decades and has been receiving those benefits for several years? How arrogant.

    My question was for the OP. Are you answering for him?
     
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    No intention of offending you, but that's your choice.
    Your question prompted the statement, and you didn't qualify yourself in any way..... and the answer was for all interested viewers, not just you.
    And I probably have more experience than you with social security. I'm over 80 and paying income tax on my social security income due to my tax bracket.
     
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    there was no "government's promise of "investing your social security payments"" in anything except the safe government securities that rich people, foundations, banks, pension funds , corporations, and foreign governments use to protect their principal.

    did you know that the dreaded "national debt" is exactly equal to the total of those government securities, representing wealth in private hands?
     
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    Did you know that those represent money borrowed from the people by the government in the first place?

    Read up:
    ( https://www.crystalbull.com/Social-Security-ISC9/ )
    The Social Security Act of 1935

    What was promised, and what evolved, are a magnitude apart.
    In 1936, the U.S. Government printed the following pamphlet, "INFORMATIONAL SERVICE CIRCULAR No. 9", to be included with the paycheck of every worker in the U.S. It is well worth the short read. The pamphlet explains the mandatory establishment of Social Security accounts, and made several promises which were not kept. Here are some of the highlights:

    • "...you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to {earnings of} $3,000 a year. That is the most you will ever pay." {$90 per year}

    • "The checks will come to you as a right. You will get them regardless of the amount of property or income you may have." {This precludes means-testing.}

    • "If you should die before you begin to get your monthly checks, your family will get a {lump sum} payment in cash, amounting to 3½ cents on every dollar of wages you have earned after 1936."

    • "The law also creates an "Old-Age Reserve Account" in the United States Treasury, and Congress is authorized to put into this reserve account each year enough money to provide for the monthly payments you and other workers are to receive when you are 65." {The Social Security Trust Fund should have remained funded.}

    • "Meanwhile, the Old Age Reserve fund in the United States Treasury is drawing interest, and the Government guarantees it will never earn less than 3 percent." {All U.S. Government bonds currently earning less than 3%.}

    • "What you get from the Government plan will always be more than you have paid in taxes and usually more than you can get for yourself by putting away the same amount of money each week in some other way." {propaganda}

    My father listened to FDR explain the program on the radio, and specifically heard that the funds would be "invested". In a way that is true, but not as most people thought it would be.

    Item one, "The most you will ever pay" ... has grown from a total of 6% on $3000 to 12.7% on about $130,000 .They inflated both sides of the formula.
    Item two, "Regardless of the amount of property or income you have", also changed- as in, my benefits are mostly taxed as income because I still make income.
    Item six, receive more than than you paid in taxes.... fantasy.

    Social Security gets a new patch job every few years because it's not economically sound. If it were a private insurance program, the government would be condemning it and possibly filing charges.
    Like may government programs, once it's established and people become dependent on it, it is impossible to back down. That's where we are. In the next 5 or ten years, they will have to ":save" it again.
     
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    No, actually, it was not. I wanted to know if the OP included SS in his definition of government assistance. You can't answer that for him.
     
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    You're right on that, I cannot. I did not read it that way, should have.
     
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    Ok, so if you work, eat, are on disability, or retired you're on the dole.

    I find it funny because they said that private employment benefits, as in working, is them included on the government's paycheck.

    At last! The myth of the working man making his own way in the world has finally been exposed as the lie that it is! The house of cards is falling, baby! Capitalism has finally been unmasked!

    Now, will you take the next step and help support fixing the mistakes in the system that need to be corrected? Or will you now stick your hands in your ears and sing la, la, la, I'm not listening?
     
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    That you are offended that he responded to your question regarding this hard news article reporting what was said on a news show in an interview speaks volumes about you. Did you really think that I who could retire now with benefits but am still working didnt know that too?
     
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    Oh, puhleeze ... stop with the fake pomposity. My question was for you alone. Will you answer?
     
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    No. I will not. The person you went after for answering spoke well for me and his words are my answer as well.
     
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    My question was an easy one. Do you consider Social Security to be "on the dole?" I'm not baiting you, I really do want to know.

    And that user you claim I "went after" admitted that he could not answer for you. See #12.
     
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    Just answer the question, is that asking too much? Do you consider Social Security to be government assistance?

    And BTW, the small cost of living increases they give us do not even come close to keeping up with inflation. Do you think that those on SS, or people getting some sort of government assistance, are living the easy life?
     
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    WHO YOU GONNA BELIEVE, JOE OR YOUR OWN LYIN’ BANK STATEMENT? U.S. Misery Index Belies Biden’s ‘Hopeful Economy’ Malarkey.

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    Bidenflation remains at +'40-year highs. Most Americans aren’t feeling “optimistic about the holidays” or “the year ahead” just because Bidenflation is only 7.11%. We notice there are fifteen countries with lower inflation rates than the U.S.

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    Misery rate more than double Trumpian per-COVID

    Current U.S. Misery Index: Unemployment 3.7% + Inflation 7.11% = 10.81%

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