Democrats are Willing To Provoke Riots To Win Elections

All I know is that they did and Biden won the election, not Trump.

It's well documented. Everybody knows it's true.

Even Trump knows.

 

Virtually nobody who pays the slightest attention actually believes that elections in the USA are free and fair. It's well documented.
In Fact, the US is notorious for election fraud and election rigging.
The DP even rigs its own primaries.

 

It does seem strange that Bernie seemed to be the most popular but didn't win the primary. He's also trending higher than Joe Biden currently

 

But it's fair when you win I bet?

 

Revolutionary violence has been used by the "right" and the "left" depending on what the issues are. The Unite The Right and other such actions by the Oath Keepers, 3 Percenters, Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point protest projects, all attempt to provoke violence when demonstrating opposing groups. They try to stir emotion, such as the two years of constant buildup by the conservative media about election fraud or the continuous lies by the election fraud after the fact. And that is still going on despite no evidence on any type of significant election fraud that would result in changing the elections. None of the courts, federal or state, have accepted any of the theories presented by Trump supporters. Not even a Trump appointee in the Mar a Lago case accepted that argument. We even had isolated incidents of violence for people wearing masks in public, or school board meetings where some parents actually treated teachers, school administrators, school board trustees, etc. Not all on the right who protests are violent, but the groups and leaders of conservative groups are counting on the few who would so that they can further their political agenda.

And the same can be for the left, but it is usually something like alleged police brutality or striking down Roe v Wade. They will protest and some will get violent as the case, but groups and leaders of the liberal groups are counting on the few who would so that they can further their political agendas.

 

I never assume that any election in the US is either free or fair. The two party system is rotten to the core.

 

Oh well, I suppose we should all just give up then?

 

People voted for Biden because they did not want to vote for Trump. It is not like Biden was the Democrat's first or second or even third choice for President. He was more palatable than Trump. All Trump did in 2020 was blame everyone for his own mistakes. Remember, Trump never admits he does wrong. He can dish it, but cries like a baby when it is given to him by anyone. Take a look at Barr, whom Trump appointed as AG. In Trump's speech, he enthusiastically endorsed Barr, claiming he was the best AG to ever hold office. Now that Barr is disagreeing with Trump, Trump has said some nasty things in his tweets. That is Trump's MO and people notice, at least most people do who do not have blinders on.

Trump's biggest issue was his Covid Response, which there was none from the Summer of 2020 and on. All he did was blame China for this and that, which is a reflection on Trump's part for his lack of response. Never mind his comments about opening people up and hitting covid tissue with UV lights as a solution or Ivermectin or whatever else Trump decided to say. His next biggest issue was blaming Democrats for all the failures of his administration did such as the impeachment proceedings and failures for the economy, at least that is what the public saw, even before Covid hit.

 

We should all demand serious election reform. For instance:

1. Doubling or tripling the pay for election judges and observers to hire enough to expand the number of polling stations wherever there are now long waiting lines to eliminate the wait.
2. Video stream the count from several camera angles so that anyone can monitor the vote count from their personal computer and document any suspicious activity.

 

So true! That's why I voted for him.

I think the time is coming when the Democrats need to not be afraid to get behind some more aggressive candidates. Gavin Newsom is in that mold for me.

In all credit to the Republicans, although they hold up the 1950s as some kind of halcyon decade, they've actually matured past that in terms of political strategy. They get into the ring and fight hard and - don't worry I'll pay your legal bills - paraphrasing a perfect example.

Now if only the Democrats could learn to let go of the 1960s in a similar fashion, we might actually start to get somewhere. Then the OP will really have something to complain about.

 

There are times that Democrats come up with reasonable solutions to complex problems, but they are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to immigration, the economy, tax policy, spending priorities, etc. Although I agree in principle with the infrastructure bill, a majority of the Debt Reduction Bill, there covid response in their climate and spending bill in 2021, and the VA health bill that would assist Veterans in their health care needs, they really have a messaging problem. They tend to blame the rich and the "elitist corporations" for all the mess instead of really looking at the root causes. There are just as many idealogues on the Democrat Side as the Republican side

Yes, the GOP does fight, but they fight bills that they really shouldn't fight on like the VA health care bill that they opposed initially. The problem with the GOP is as soon as the Democrats come up with something, even something that is needed, the GOP would oppose it simply because it came from the Democrats. But the GOP also uses fear tactics to try to get their way and they are attempting to do this with the possible indictment or the fear tactics that Gov DeSantis uses for school, education, etc.

Both parties are stuck and I am coming to realize that both parties probably need to be dissolved and just allow people to run on their own without the letter behind their name. It would get rid of most of the nonsense in politics, but not all of it. That would be true reform IMO.

 

Nonsense.

What you consider "right wing propaganda" is, more often than not, simply reporting the facts.

On the other hand, your version of truth and facts, as reported by a corrupt state and media, is purely Orwellian.

The Gestapo DOJ and FBI are going after their enemies - just the same as the Nazis and Communists went after their enemies.

And just like the Nazis and Communists, everything they do is "legal" - because they say it is. They, themselves are the law.

Furthermore, by sheer magnitude of scale - there isn't a single Republican, libertarian, or patriotic employee in any government institution in Washington D.C.

D.C. is a swamp of Democrats - over 90% of DC.

The MSM media is just as bad.

You're blowing smoke and kicking up dust - Saul Alinsky would be proud.

 

Democratic socialists:

The people should control the means of production through democratic processes.

Also democratic socialists:

More than half the country is deplorable.

 

Hannity, Laura Ingram Show, Tucker, and all the other conservative shows post opinions trying to be disguised as facts. What was factual about Hannity reporting that Seth Rich was murdered by HRC? Or the opinions of the election fraud claims or the "death panels" for the ACA, and the list goes on and on.

RW media lies to you so often in every way possible you can no longer distinguish between fact and fiction. This is beyond political spin. This is outright lying to the American public to pursue a political agenda

The other fact is that there are plenty of conservatives in governemnt in the rank and file. The only difference between them and people like you is they take their oath seriously and their job seriously too. They can seperate their political idealogy from the work that they do. I should know, I was one of them for two plus decades.

 

And no doubt you got in on that big sale of ocean front property is Arizona too.

 

Soooo the warp speed vaccine development was something you missed right?

If we had as many wise men as fools in the country, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in- and the more fools get power, the worse it is. The democrats think that defunding the police and letting murderers walk without bail is smart too. Amazing intellect.

 

No I let you beat me to it because I knew it was a con.

I went for a cocktail with Bill Barr, Chris Krebs and the guy from Cyber Ninjas who had to concede that Biden's win in Arizona was actually undercounted!

 

Charlie Kirk and Turning Point have nothing to do with the others you mention and are totally within the mainstream of American political thought.

 

Something that you and secular progressives are masterful experts at

 

There was no organized attempt to do anything that day. It was simply a mostly peaceful protest that was not quite 100% that way. Those that followed herd mentality had no organized plan to do anything at all.

 

Unlike you, I live in the domain known as reality

 

Yeah? Keep the denial faith, just don't hand over your money.

 

But it was seen as opportunity by the democrats, to turn it into something it wasn't. In so doing, they demonstrated, as they have before, many of the characteristics that now define them-
The double standard, the concept of justifying their own actions with end objectives.... but only when it's for their benefit. If its not, then it is evil...
The nation needs leadership with a consistent moral compass and a dedication to nation over party and person. The extent of internal corruption and unscrupulous motives in the democratic party will be either the destruction of the party- or the destruction of the nation. That serves absolutely no one.

 

Those are opinion shows, and I 1) rarely watch them, and 2) when I do, I take them with a grain of salt.

Those shows are, in their own way, designed to prevent effective resistance/opposition to the Establishment left.

You have no idea how the game is played.

 

Here is an example of the left, how street level agitators infect a community and set about destroying the culture and safety of that community.

Asheville North Carolina, population approximately 90,000.

A former sheriff, and now a former Democrat, recounts how Antifa essentially shut down the citizens in their attempts to maintain their community's culture and safety.

They would show up at public meetings and disrupt the proceedings. Normal, regular folks stopped going to the meetings because they would be shouted down, and the meetings would turn into clown shows. Crime is up 31% in just 2 years.

The Sherriff was a Democrat. Unknowingly, he voted for and supported the virus that is now killing his community.

If you were to try to explain this to him 5 years ago - I'm sure he would have hit you with "Orangeman Bad" garbage, and all the other leftwing nonsense. He, and all Democrats, have no one to blame but themselves.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/democrat...t-crime-spike-as-police-dwindle-perfect-storm