Democrats attempting to eliminate Republican candidates

Yes. Without recounting them (even though they had already been recounted). That's literally what the Eastman memo talks about.

 

Once again: words that can only be typed by those who run and hide from the Eastman memo.

 

Whether or not he participated is a matter of opinion. He was the organizer of the event and he was the key speaker, so its hard to argue he didn't participate. Did he physically participate in the violence? Of course not. He is the typical "lead from behind" who will never risk his own skin. However, as the organizer of the initial gathering, IMO he participated. I'll let the courts decide.

 

never read it. doesn't have any relevance to me

 

The Democrats only want their political opposition off the ballot.

Trying to compare what the Democrats are doing now to what you think Republicans are not doing concerning the idea of non citizens on a ballot was kind of silly


There are no insurrectionists on any ballot because there hasn’t been anything close to an insurrection in the US since the 1800’s.

 

It would if you cared about the facts. So, I guess that is a no. If you had read it and the preceding conversations, then you would have known the actual plan.

• Step one was to have Pence violate the Constitution and the ECA by ignoring the legal votes and choosing the fake ones instead.
• Pence wouldn't go along with step one, so step two was to have Pence declare (again, in violation of the Constitution and the ECA) that 5-7 entire states SHOULD BE ENTIRELY ****ING IGNORED and that Trump should be DECLARED THE WINNER BASED ON THE REMAINING EC VOTES after the other EC votes were illegally stripped.
• But they knew Pence would probably not go with that either, so the NEXT plan was to have Pence (again, in violation of the Constitution and the ECA) declare that no winner could be determined based on the EC, so it should go to a House vote instead. Get it now?

 

Trump did not organize or participate in the capitol riot. It also was not an insurrection. Facts matter, not opinions.

He did tell people that they should “peacefully and patriotically” make their voices heard.

 

Lol.

 

He organized the "protest" and sat by when it turned violent. More than one witness has testified that he seemed happy about the violence. Looking back at our history of "insurrection," plenty of less violent things have been considered insurrection by the White House. Sure, he gave a half-hearted "peacefully and patriotically" comment . . . after also telling them they would lose their country if they didn't stop the count. And he certainly seemed fine with the violence once it started. He had harsher words for his own VP, who was fleeing for his life, than he ever did for his own terrorists.

 

oh i know what they both said. Pence didn't go for it and the rest is history.

 

and I suspect the courts will correctly find that Trump didn't engage in insurrection

 

Yes. Pence did not go for Trump's attempts to overturn democracy. Now you get it! Not all of us share your "It is okay to try to overthrow democracy as long as you fail" philosophy.

 

Who says I'm worrying?

Ever wonder what it is that's eating at the left and driving them almost to the brink of frenzied insanity? I mean they've been after Trump now for almost twice as long as he was in office.

It's because he's coming very close to exposing the left's long term game of Constitutional sabotage in order to establish their uniparty monolithic government beholden to whatever whims they choose to force on you and I.

And Trump's SC looks like it just might blow the whole con wide open for everyone to see and feel.

They're right to be afraid of June. Very afraid.

 

Whatever narrative fits your mood. I voiced my opinion and added the courts will decide. Feel free to disagree.

I don't think that is what they are trying to decide. From what I understand they are looking into the States authority to enforce the14th amendment, and I think they will rule that only Congress can enforce it, and that will leave him on the ballot GOP Congress isn't going to rule on it.

If they are deciding whether or not he engaged in insurrection, then he stands on thinner ice.

 

Anyone that bad, should not be in office - But the right doesn't care, they will still vote for him

 

How did Trump get possession of them to toss them in the garbage?

 

He didn't need possession. He just needed to tell Pence not to count them and to count the illegal ones instead, or just to not count any from that state at all . . . which is what Trump did

 

When is this nonsense going to end?

 

Pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 15, the votes of the Electoral College for President and Vice President, which have been submitted by the states, are counted in a joint session of Congress, presided over by the Vice President.Sep 27, 2023
Pence didn't have the stroke to do that either. Maybe, just maybe, what we have here is a huge pile of steaming bovine waste.

 

We agree that Trump was pressuring Pence to do something illegal. I'm glad we agree about that. If only you understood that this is EXACTLY what you are saying.

 

When Trump supporters are capable of facing reality . . . and the past few years and not a good indicator that this will ever happen.

 

You guys melted down on election night 2016 and never recovered.

 

If that's what you think, then this must be your first day on the forum. I never melted down over the 2016 election, which I freely admitted Trump won. Want to seem me do it again? But don't mind me, you were blaming your side's meltdowns onto others. Carry on.

 

There is a difference between a "disagreement" and outright lying. Trump claims the election was stolen from him. His claim is that there was a concerted effort to deny him a win in the 2020 election. That is a false claim and yet he continues to peddle it.
He encouraged people to break the law in order to get his way. Again, this is not a "difference of opinion" it is a matter of criminal action. The FAKE electors are a criminal act. This act was coordinated with the approval of Trump. This makes it a conspiracy to commit a criminal act which, in itself, is a criminal act.
I have disagreements with people all the time, I rarely contend that they have committed a criminal act. I DO contend this in the case of Trump and his inner circle. Not only do I think he committed a criminal act, so do the investigators and prosecutors who have brought charges. So do the members of the Grand Juries in 4 different jurisdictions that have indicted him.

You want to talk about wrapping yourself in the flag? This is what Trump his LITERALLY done in order to push his lies.

 

If you watched the President's speech a few days ago you saw the real flag rolling. Something about George Washington refused to be king so voting for Biden is the only way to save democracy.