Demons built Solomons temple

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    his text is an Old Testament Pseudepigraphic catalog of demons summoned by
    King Solomon, and how they can be countered by invoking angels and other
    magical techniques. It is one of the oldest magical texts attributed to King
    Solomon, dating First to Third Century A.D. Translation is by F. C. Conybeare,
    Jewish Quarterly Review, October, 1898. Compare with the translation of D. C.
    Duling in The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, volume 1, Edited by James H.
    Charlesworth, Doubleday, 1983, p. 935 ff.
    [15]
    The Testament of Solomon
    (translated from the codex of the Paris Library, after
    the edition of Fleck, Wissensch. Reise, bd. ii. abth. 3)
    Greek title:--
    NOTES:
    1. Testament of Solomon, son of David, who was
    king in Jerusalem, and mastered and controlled all
    spirits of the air, on the earth, and under the earth.
    By means of them also he wrought all the
    transcendent works of the Temple. Telling also of the
    authorities they wield against men, and by what
    angels these demons are brought to naught.
    Of the sage Solomon.
    Blessed art thou, O Lord God, who didst give
    Solomon such authority. Glory to thee and might
    unto the ages. Amen.
    2. And behold, when the Temple of the city of
    Jerusalem was being built, and the artificers were
    working thereat, Ornias the demon came among
    them toward sunset; and he took away half of the
    pay of the chief-deviser's (?)1 little boy, as well as half
    his food. [16] He also continued to suck the thumb of
    his right hand every day. And the child grew thin,
    although he was very much loved by the king.
    1. [D: master workman’s ]
    3. So King Solomon called the boy one day, and
    questioned him, saying: "Do I not love thee more
    than all the artisans who are working in the Temple
    of God? Do I not give thee double wages and a
    double supply of food? How is it that day by day
    and hour by hour thou growest thinner?"
    4. But the child said to the king: "I pray thee, O king.
    Listen to what has befallen all that thy child hath.
    After we are all released from our work on the
    Temple of God, after sunset, when I lie down to rest,
    one of the evil demons comes and takes away from
    me one half of my pay and one half of my food. Then
    he also takes hold of my right hand and sucks my
    thumb. And lo, my soul is oppressed, and so my
    body waxes thinner every day."
    5. Now when I Solomon heard this, I entered the
    Temple of God, and prayed with all my soul, night
    and day, that the demon might be delivered into my
    hands, and that I might gain authority over him.
    And it came about through my prayer that grace was
    given to me from the Lord Sabaoth by Michael his
    archangel. [He brought me] a little ring, having a
    seal consisting of an engraved stone, and said to me:
    "Take, O Solomon, king, son of David, the gift which
    the Lord God has sent thee, the highest Sabaoth.
    With it thou shalt lock up all demons of the earth,
    male and female; and with their help thou shalt
    build up Jerusalem. [But] thou [must] wear this seal
    of God. And this engraving of the seal of the ring
    sent thee is a Pentalpha."
     
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    And I Solomon was overjoyed, and praised and
    glorified the God of heaven and earth. And on the
    morrow I called the boy, and gave him the ring, and
    said to him: "take this, and at the hour in which the
    demon shall come unto thee, throw this ring at the
    chest of the demon, and say to him: 'In the name of
    God, King Solomon calls thee hither.3' And then do
    thou come running to me, without having any
    misgivings or fear in respect of aught thou mayest
    hear on the part of the demon."
    3. [D: Come! Solomon summons
    you
    7. So the child took the ring, and went off; and
    behold, at the [17] customary hour Ornias, the fierce
    demon, came like a burning fire to take the pay from
    the child. But the child according to the instructions
    received from the king, threw the ring at the chest of
    the demon, and said: "King Solomon calls thee
    hither." And then he went off at a run to the king.
    But the demon cried out aloud, saying: "Child, why
    hast thou done this to me? Take the ring off me, and
    I will render to thee the gold of the earth. Only take
    this off me, and forbear to lead me away to
    Solomon4."
    4. [D: Remove the ring and give it
    back to Solomon]
    8. But the child said to the demon: "As the Lord God
    of Israel liveth, I will not brook thee. So come hither."
    And the child came at a run, rejoicing, to the king,
    and said: "I have brought the demon, O king, as thou
    didst command me, O my master. And behold, he
    stands before the gates of the court of thy palace,
    crying out, and supplicating with a loud voice;
    offering me the silver and gold of the earth if I will
    only bring him unto thee5."
    5. [D: would not deliver him to
    you.]
    9. And when Solomon heard this, he rose up from
    his throne, and went outside into the vestibule of the
    court of his palace; and there he saw the demon,
    shuddering and trembling. And he said to him:
    "Who art thou?" And the demon answered: "I am
    called Ornias."
    10. And Solomon said to him: "Tell me, O demon, to
    what zodiacal sign thou art subject." And he
    answered: "To the Water-pourer6. And those who are
    consumed with desire for the noble virgins upon
    earth . . . . . [there appears to be a lacuna here], these
    I strangle7. But in case there is no disposition to
    sleep8, I am changed into three forms. Whenever
    men come to be enamoured of women, I
    metamorphose myself into a comely female; and I
    take hold of the men in their sleep, and play with
    them. And after a while I again take to my wings,
    and hie me to the heavenly regions. I also appear as
    a lion, and I am commanded by all the demons. I am
    offspring of the archangel Uriel9, the power of God."
    6. [D: Aquarius.]
    7. [D: I strangle those who reside
    in Aquarius because of their
    passion for women whose
    zodiacal sign is Virgo.]
    8. [D: while in a trance...]
    9. [D: Ouriel.]
    11. I Solomon, having heard the name of the
    archangel, prayed and glorified God, the Lord of
    heaven and earth. And I sealed the [18] demon and
    set him to work at stone-cutting, so that he might cut
    the stones in the Temple, which, lying along the
    shore, had been brought by the Sea of Arabia. But he,
    fearful of the iron, continued and said to me: "I pray
    thee, King Solomon, let me go free; and I will bring
    you all the demons." And as he was not willing to be
    subject to me, I prayed the archangel Uriel to come
    and succour me; and I forthwith beheld the
    archangel Uriel coming down to me from the
    heavens.
    12. And the angel bade the whales10 of the sea come
    out of the abyss. And he cast his destiny upon the
    ground, and that [destiny] made subject [to him] the
    great demon11. And he commanded the great demon
    and bold Ornias, to cut stones at the Temple12. And
    accordingly I Solomon glorified the God of heaven
    and Maker of the earth. And he bade Ornias come
    with his destiny, and gave him the seal, saying:
    "Away with thee, and bring me hither the prince of
    all the demons."
    10. [D: sea monsters. ... The sea
    monsters are named Behemoth
    (the male) and Leviathan (the
    female) in 4Ezra 6:48-52, 1En
    60:7.]
    11. [D: he withered up their
    species and cast his fate to the
    ground]
    12. [D adds: and to bring to
    completion the construction of the
    Temple]
    13. So Ornias took the fingerfinger-ring, and went off to
    Beelzeboul, who has kingship over the demons. He
    said to him: "Hither! Solomon calls thee." But
    Beelzeboul, having heard, said to him: "Tell me, who
    is this Solomon of whom thou speakest to me?" Then
    Ornias threw the ring at the chest of Beelzeboul,
    saying: "Solomon the king calls thee." But Beelzeboul
    cried aloud with a mighty voice, and shot out a great
    burning flame of fire; and he arose, and followed
    Ornias, and came to Solomon.
    14. And when I saw the prince of demons, I glorified
    the Lord God, Maker of heaven and earth, and I said:
    "Blessed art thou, Lord God Almighty, who hast
    given to Solomon thy servant wisdom, the assessor
    of the wise, and hast subjected unto me all the power
    of he devil."
    15. And I questioned him, and said: "Who art thou?"
    The demon replied: "I am Beelzebub, the exarch of
    the demons. And all [19] the demons have their chief
    13. [D: The demon said, "I am
    Beelzeboul, the ruler of the
    demons." I demanded that

    Here's the rest of it in case anyone's interested. but be careful, it's full of magic spells and other esoteric knowledge.

    http://www.yankeeclassic.com/miskato...nabridged).pdf
     
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    Look for....the Union Labelllllllll.
     
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    Ok, let's go over this. When was Solomen's temple built, hundreds of years before the first century. You are telling me that a text, hundreds of years after the event it describes, knows exactly what happened? Do you know nothing about history? That would be like me writing an account, without reference to any actual evidence or texts and adding in random details about angels, of the American revolution.
     
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    please do not insert any hint of reason into this discussion.
     
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    There's no way you had time to read it, so you're condemning it without knowing what you're talking about. That is really stupid.
     
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    Except I am actually familiar with other Old Testament pseudo-pigrapha and none of it reflects historical reality.
     
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    That's like someone saying they are familiar with Einsteins theory of relativity and it has no basis in fact.
     
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    Have you read Einsteins ORIGINAL papers ? do you know how many other scientist disputed his theories and some still going so today ?

    Criticism of Albert Einstein's relativity theory was mainly expressed in the early years after its publication on a scientific, pseudoscientific, philosophical, or ideological basis. Reasons for criticism were, for example, alternative theories, rejection of the abstract-mathematical method, misunderstandings, and alleged errors in the theory. . Even today there are some critics of relativity (sometimes called "anti-relativists"), however, their viewpoints are not taken seriously by the scientific community, since the theory of relativity is considered to be self-consistent, is in accordance with many experiments and serves as the basis of many successful theories such as quantum electrodynamics.

    ====
    Scientists reject startling claims that the speed of light has been broken for a second time

    An experiment that threw the laws of physics into doubt was almost certainly faulty, scientists said yesterday.

    Researchers had claimed to have twice beamed particles through the earth’s crust more quickly than the speed of light.

    The findings were greeted with astonishment because Einstein’s theory of relativity holds that nothing can travel faster than this 186,282 miles a second limit.

    Under Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, nothing can be accelerated to a speed faster than light.
    That idea lies at the heart of all current science of the cosmos and of how the vast variety of particles that make it up behave.



    NEVERTHELESS .......... hmmmmm.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...d-light-broken-second-time.html#ixzz1u7MjJJ4c



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    Your link doesn't work.

    Solomon's Temple was built by King Hiram of Tyre... 800 years earlier.
     
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    hiram assissted david and solomon
     
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    I doubt that.. The Jews had NO history of construction.. The materials came from Lebanon and the temple was modeled after existing temples in Byblos and Balbeck.

    David wasn't allowed to build the Temple because of blood on his hands.
     
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    thats not what historians and the bible say.
     
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    seats close to me. And I it is who make manifest the
    apparition of each demon."13 And he promised to
    bring to me in bonds all the unclean spirits. And I
    again glorified the God of heaven and earth, as I do
    always give thanks to him.
    without interruption he sit next to
    me and explain the manifestations
    of the demons.]
    16. I then asked of the demon if there were females
    among them. And when he told me that there were, I
    said that I desired to see them. So Beelzeboul went
    off at high speed, and brought unto me Onoskelis,
    that had a very pretty shape, and the skin of a fairhued
    woman; and she tossed her head14.
    14. [D: "... fair complexion, but her
    legs were those of a mule."
    Onoskelis means "she who has
    ass's legs."]
    17. And when she was come, I said to her: "Tell me
    who art thou?" But she said to me: "I am called
    Onoskelis, a spirit wrought ...[?shabtai/Saturn?]15,
    lurking upon the earth. There is a golden cave where
    I lie. But I have a place that ever shifts16. At one time
    I strangle men with a noose; at another, I creep up
    from the nature to the arms [in marg: "worms"]17. But
    my most frequent dwelling-places are the precipices,
    caves, ravines. Oftentimes, however, do I consort
    with men in the semblance of a woman, and above
    all with those of a dark skin18. For they share my star
    with me; since they it is who privily or openly
    worship my star, without knowing that they harm
    themselves, and but whet my appetite for further
    mischief. For they wish to provide money by means
    of memory (commemoration?)19, but I supply a little
    to those who worship me fairly."
    15. [D: My name is Onoskelis. I
    am a spirit which has been made
    into a body.]
    16. [D: I have a many sided
    character.]
    17. [D: I pervert them from their
    true natures.]
    18. [D: honey-colored]
    19. [D: by remembering (me)]
    18. And I Solomon questioned her about her birth,
    and she replied: "I was born of a voice untimely, the
    so-called echo of a man's ordure20 dropped in a
    wood."21
    20. For the demon born of an echo
    we have an analogue in the
    Hebrew Bath Kol, "the daughter
    of a voice." In the Gnostic Hymn
    to Hermes, edited by Dieterich,
    Abrasax, p 19, we read, l. 104...
    21. [D: I was generated from an
    unexpected voice which is called
    a voice of the echo of a black
    (lead?) heaven, emitted in matter.
    (meaning uncertain)]
    19. And I said to her: "Under what star dost thou
    pass?" And she answered me: "Under the star of the
    full moon, for the reason that the moon travels over
    most things." Then I said to her: "And [20] what angel
    22. [Instead of "and by the angel
    Joel." D reads "So I uttered the
    name of the Holy One of Israel
    and
     
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    is it that frustrates thee?" And she said to me: "He
    that in thee [or "through thee"] is reigning." And I
    thought that she mocked me, and bade a soldier
    strike her. But she cried aloud, and said: "I am
    [subjected] to thee, O king, by the wisdom of God
    given to thee, and by the angel Joel."22
    20. So I commanded her to spin the hemp for the
    ropes used in the building of the house of God; and
    accordingly, when I had sealed and bound her, she
    was so overcome and brought to naught as to stand
    night and day spinning the hemp.
    21. And I at once bade another demon to be led unto
    me; and instantly there approached me the demon
    Asmodeus23, bound, and I asked him: "Who art
    thou?'' But he shot on me a glance of anger and rage,
    and said: "And who art thou?&q2uot; And I said to
    him: "Thus punished as thou art, answerest thou
    me?" But he, with rage, said to me: "But how shall I
    answer thee, for thou art a son of man; whereas I
    was born an angel's seed by a daughter of man, so
    that no word of our heavenly kind addressed to the
    earth-born can be overweening24. Wherefore also my
    star is bright in heaven, and men call it, some the
    Wain25, and some the dragon's child. I keep near
    unto this star. So ask me not many things; for thy
    kingdom also after a little time is to be disrupted,
    and thy glory is but for a season. And short will be
    thy tyranny over us; and then we shall again have
    free range over mankind, so as that they shall revere
    us as if we were gods, not knowing, men that they
    are, the names of the angels set over us."
    23. [Asmodeus also appears in
    Tobit 3:8, and is ultimately
    derived from the Avestan demon
    Aeshma-daeva ("demon of wrath").
    -JHP]
    24. [arrogant.]
    25. [D: Great Bear.]
    22. And I Solomon, on hearing this, bound him more
    carefully, and ordered him to be flogged with thongs
    of ox-hide26, and to tell me humbly what was his
    name and what his business. And he answered me
    thus: "I am called Asmodeus among mortals, and my
    business is to plot against the newly wedded, so that
    they may not know one another. And I sever them
    utterly by many calamities, and I waste away the
    beauty of virgin women, and estrange their hearts."
    26. [D: flogged with a rod]
    23. And I said to him: "Is this thy only business?"
    And he answered me: "I transport men into fits of
    27. [D: I spread (or, I *sting to ?)
    madness about women through
     
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    madness and desire, when they have wives of their
    own, so that they leave them, and go off by [21] night
    and day to others that belong to other men; with the
    result that they commit sin, and fall into murderous
    deeds.27"
    the stars, and I have often
    committed a rash of murders.]
    24. And I adjured him by the name of the Lord
    Sabaôth, saying: "Fear God, Asmodeus, and tell me
    by what angel thou art frustrated." But he said: "By
    Raphael, the archangel that stands before the throne
    of God. But the liver and gall of a fish put me to
    flight, when smoked over ashes of the tamarisk28." I
    again asked him, and said: "Hide not aught from me.
    For I am Solomon, son of David, King of Israel. Tell
    me the name of the fish which thou reverest." And
    he answered: "It is the Glanos29 by name, and is
    found in the rivers of Assyria; wherefore it is that I
    roam about in those parts."
    28. [D: smoking on coals of
    charcoal. Compare Tobit, where
    Raphael instructs him in the use
    of the gall, heart, and liver for
    various cures.]
    29. [D: "sheatfish", a large catfish.
    Gk. ho, hê glanis.]
    25. And I said to him: "Hast thou nothing else about
    thee, Asmodeus?" And he answered: "The power of
    God knoweth, which hath bound me with the
    indissoluble bonds of yonder one's seal, that
    whatever I have told thee is true. I pray thee, King
    Solomon, condemn me not to [go into] water." But I
    smiled, and said to him: "As the Lord God of my
    fathers liveth, I will lay iron on thee to wear. But
    thou shalt also make the clay for the entire
    construction of the Temple, treading it down with
    thy feet." And I ordered them to give him ten waterjars
    to carry water in. And the demon groaned
    terribly, and did the work I ordered him to do. And
    this I did, because that fierce demon Asmodeus
    knew even the future. And I Solomon glorified God,
    who gave wisdom to me Solomon his servant. And
    the liver of the fish and its gall I hung on the spike of
    a reed30, and burned it over Asmodeus because of his
    being so strong, and his unbearable malice was thus
    frustrated.
    30. [D: liver and gall of the fish,
    along with a branch of storax.]
    26. And I summoned again to stand before me
    Beelzeboul, the prince of demons, and I sat him
    down on a raised seat of honour, and said to him:
    "Why art thou alone, prince of the demons?" And he
    said to me: "Because I alone am left of the angels of
    heaven that came down32. For I was first angel in the
    31. [D omits "on a raised seat of
    honour"]
    32. [i.e. fell

    In case the link doesn't take you there, I'll post a few pages at a time.
     
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    That's exactly what the Bible says.. Read it.
     

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