~ Desperately seeking the reality of reality~

My philosophy? Notice below, those words in my signature line are in quotation marks. Meaning that they are not my words, and that they are the philosophy of the person(s) responsible for the original publication of that quote. Now, if you are offended by those words that are quoted in my signature line, then take it up with the United States Justice Department.

What "good men" have I road blocked? Please be specific, so that if there is in fact a road block I can remove that road block. BTW: when providing that list of 'good men' also show irrefutable proof that they are in deed "good men".

 

The escape from guilt and the grip of the fall from perfection to corruption is accomplished by finding out the truth about such scriptures. There are sources which provide suitable analysis.

It is not easy to escape the hopeless pattern of religious brainwashing, a captive fanaticism having no inkling of the flaws in the mindset being bought into. Success comes from a persistent quest to learn of the fragmentary authenticity of an authoritative construct that has had much of the story of its origins deliberately erased; a construct that commandeered vast heathen sources but subsequently became revered after awareness of such became suppressed.

The obligation to truth is satisfied by finding out what has been discerned as veritable from amongst that which has been misread, deviously manipulated, or contrived. Slavish allegiance to indoctrination blocks the realization of having been duped into believing exactly what the ruling powers want imparted in support of their lopsided advantages: the disarming and disempowering of the masses, tricking them into being victims of sanctioned departure from a full grasp of reality.

 

Why pick on the people trapped in
the hopeless pattern of religious brainwashing" when modern personality psychology reveals that we are all trapped within a genetically rooted forced perception of the world we are born into and must try to figure out.

Tests that conclude we each think in one of the possible dozen patterns available to man, like those devised by Richard Cattel, or the 12 Types described by Max Luscher, or the now so useful Myers/Briggs Type Test that hooks people up on eHarmony?

What the Bible psychology has long inferred for us by 12 tribes, 12 apostles, 12 stones, 12 jewels, et, is that we come in a dozen "flavors," which in the end, represent patterns to the way we think that are different, but unaware of the differences, and self assured in our conceits, we refuse to see other points of view beyond the blinders set genetically upon our minds.

When we all realize this, and give the others around us enough credit to be heard, and we together round out the facts and the other various points of view, peace and harmony will follow:


Rev. 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, (that is, this new Christian paradigm, the New Jerusalem: [Rev 21:16]), and on either side (of the massive, ensuing Homoiousian sapiens evolution) of the river (of mankind into the next social age), was there the (Taxonomy, i.e.); tree of (animal and plant) life, which bare twelve (Major Mainstream Apostolic Denominational Christian Churches), manner of (institutional) fruits, (one for each of man's twelve Jungian Functional Psychological Thinking perspectives: [Rev 21:12], each a distinct philosophical outlook or Myers/Briggs predisposition concerning Scripture), and yielded her fruit (of these twelve evolving types of creatures, Homoiousian sapiens) every month (in accord with the human menstral cycle): and the (unfolding) leaves of (the ensuing generations of) the tree (of biological life) were for the healing of the nations, (through their geo-political and religious social works).

 

Then you are simply referencing the notion of personal and private opinions.

 

The Bible is written in plain language, easy to understand, even among the various translations.

 

That plain language has more behind it than you realize. Look at Gen 1:27 God made man. 1:31 End of day 6. 2:1 and 2:2 Day 7. 2:5 Man does not exist. Therefore chapter 1 was not written by the author of chapter 2. Most of chapter 2 was written by the Jhwhist, who uses the term “Lord God,” a term not used by the other writer. Chapter 1 is a priestly substitute for whatever was there originally. Although not yet evident here, the priestly writer was a propagandist whose agenda was concealment of truth in order to build a supernaturalistic religion.

Look closely at 2:5 and you’ll see that the plants & herbs are prephysical archetypes. So are Adam & Eve. There is no sin by physical humans here, hence total refutation of the concept of original sin and the obligation of guilt. Furthermore, it is said that Jewish scholars admit that the stories of Adam, Cain, and Noah are mythology. History supposedly begins with Abraham, but that too can be refuted at length.

Eating the forbidden fruit was like a death sentence, but they didn’t die. Actually they did. It was the death of spirit in matter, and that’s why matter is presented as a source of evil in the scriptures.

They must not be allowed to eat the fruit of life and live forever, not as immortal humans, but remaining as spirits halting the sequence in the story of creation. They had to leave Eden because of necessity, not disobedience. The superficial stage props are for those who can’t fathom the underlying cosmological theme.

 

Motivation is the key here...

Mat 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name (Truth: [ John 14:6]), there am I, (Truth), in the midst of them.

 

But the 'motivation' you have shown from the Bible is not necessarily endorsed by the entire human race, therefore the conclusion you have drawn about the certainty of peace and harmony is untestable.

 

The Jewish scholars were wrong primarily because they lived before the analogy of these stories could be seen in the science that had not yet developed the truth necessary to correlate with them and the facts.

In Genesis 2, Adam thinks.
He thinks that animals were created AFTER himself.

That would be logical, since until he had developed the ability to think, he always thought he existed before he saw animals.
Genesis 2 is about the evolution of the human psyche.
Eve is merely a rib in that collection of seven Archetypes, one of which symbolizes the Libido, personified by Adam, the snake of the Superego, the Anima of Eve, and that long established entity in most all animals, the Self, which knows Good from Bad in order to exist.

 

Oh brother. That is unbelievable. So many false sources here that a beginning is impossible. You have sought out those who tickle your ears and suits what ever pretentious intellectualism that you think makes you sound smart. All that to say, you (and those false teachers you listened to or read) are wrong.

 

I should be reeling from the blows. I sense a bit of indignation, as if I pressed one of your buttons. However, why don’t you focus on the subject instead of invoking whatever tickles my ears, suits my pretentious intellectualism and makes me sound smart? Likewise, let’s sidestep all the false teachers that I listen to and/or read, and focus on the subject.

You say I am wrong, but you don’t offer anything specific to dispute the particular detailed points I have made. My other generalized statements are based on analysis of other major contents of the Bible outside the immediate scope of this discussion.

You say that my explanations obviate any beginning, but Genesis is the beginning, that is, for the creation of the world, and Exodus is the evolution (qualitation) of the world. However, none of this will do for you, because you want story lines confined mostly to humanization and personification. Therefore it appears that we have nothing further to discuss.

 

You are (were) quoting Lloyd Graham, a false teacher of a subject he deconstructs with pretentious scholastics and intellectualism that dismisses the point of the word of God. You are not wrong except that you are informed by those who hate God with wrong beliefs with false interpretations about God and then you think that they have added something to you. But, that is a two edged sword, is it not?

 

1. Lloyd Graham, a false teacher. Attack the messenger, not the message, the subject, the works.

2. Pretentious scholastics and intellectualism: More irrelevant judgmental derision to avoid directly confronting the subject matter.

3. “…dismisses the point of the word of God.” Said point can’t tolerate being challenged in a straightforward and honest manner, and supposedly it’s wrong to even challenge it. Granted it’s an alluring point, supposedly worthy of defense at all costs. Cling to your cherished beliefs because you grasp nothing else to stand on. For the most part, I’ll get out of your way. The alleged word of God has been seriously tinkered with as I demonstrated in the first of an available multitude of examples, but you strive to avoid confronting hard cold facts.

4. Informed by those who hate God. Again, the position of sources is not the determining factor in the assessment of the works under consideration. If there is any suspicion that I too hate God, then no, I have immense respect for the concept of the Absolute, the Unlimited Spirit, and all manifestations emanating from The Source. The false persona put on God is where I draw the line, and I have short tolerance for all works motivated to use Him for selfish gain at others’ expense.

5. Wrong beliefs. Anything that conflicts with or contradicts traditional religious beliefs has to be wrong. The details pointed out by the opposing side can be evaded and overlooked.

6. False interpretations. Interpretations are false if they have no consistency, are based on faulty information, and do not follow logic. Those that do not align with a preferred school of thought are not necessarily false.

7. Anything they have added to me is completely sensible and durable.

8. Double edged sword. Surely these reprehensible mindset transgressions and heretical attacks on the fold will come back to bite me. Dream on.

 

I agree that these are all elements in a metaphysical literary approach to explaining things which until this century, readers could not relate to more directly, and would not have even passed down the Bible had the stories used the terms I set forth below.
Today, we can see the metaphor is item by item relating to the very important matter of the evolution of the Human psyche and the Subconscious world of the archetypes therein.

In regard to the presentation of the creation of plants, Genesis correctly informs us that Plant Kingdom appeared first.
It produced the Oxygen rich atmosphere that would allow the emergence of the Animal kingdom, which is described as the subsequent steps taken by Evolution.


Gen 1:11 And (The First Cause?), God, said, Let the earth bring forth (life in a Spontaneous Generation of Bacteria which shall found the evolving and complex members of the Plant Kingdom upon the Earth, i.e.; the Hebrew word "deshe" is not grass but means "first sprouts of life on Earth"), grass, (from which early roots shall evolve) the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, (I.e.; all the Plant Kingdom to come), whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

 

Judgmental or right? I am right. I know the truth and I recognize lies. There is nothing straightforward or honest trotting out some false teacher whose teachings decieve and divert people from following the truth. As the case in point clearly illustrates.

 

There are plenty of people with their feet firmly on solid ground who consider said diversion to be away from superstition.

How can you know truth if you won't allow yourself to look at hard cold facts? You are impossible. A discussion with you is like talking to a wall with a sign on it that says "Everything you say that doesn't agree with my viewpoint is a lie." You are a model of "Anyone dominated by religious thought is under the influence of a reason-perverting power," in other words, like an ostrich with head in sand.

By the way, your attempt to badmouth Graham's book by labeling it "deconstruction" doesn't have much bite, since his deconstruction superbly exposes the Bible for what it really is. Likewise "intellectualism" is lame; the real reason it is abhored is not because of supposed "falsehood" potential, but because it threatens to expose the priesthood's faulty God-concept.

And there you go again pointing the finger at the teacher instead of looking at factual statements. You are also saying that the facts in question are lies. This would have to include, in particular, the ones that describe distinct characterisitics of written text. You are biased to the point of ridiculous absurdity.

Technically, there is nothing dishonest about trotting out a "false teacher" and openly demonstrating exactly what is being taught and offering up the specifics for evaluation. You are the one who is grossly dishonest by refusing to evaluate the specifics, again the hard cold facts, insisting instead on glossing over them and lumping them together into a statement of blatant denial. Your performance is downright disgraceful. Is this behavior what you consider a credit to your unswerving commitment to your religious beliefs and religious code of ethics? Instead, you have done a good job of demonstrating how ignorance perpetuates the enslavement of itself.

There is no point in us further exchanging bashings, although I'll not discourage you from a contentious follow-up. You have your Hebrew-Gentile word of God belief system to stick to, while I persevere in my metaphysical Buddha-Hinduish SemiGnostic deconstruction of your system, and we will never agree or convert.

 

It seems that you are willing to accept false teachings like Grahams because you have a foundational belief system that you have accepted, it makes sense to you, that is, it appeals to your flesh. God's word is an appeal to the spirit, that is the part of us that is God breathed, but dead because of sin from the fall when the very nature of man and all creation was changed, and belief in the truth is a result of our spirits being made alive by conviction of the Holy Spirit. I "gloss" over them because I know they are a lie and invalid. Nothing in that book agrees with what is written in the bible. In my view, it only introduces evidence that is wholly contrary and irrelevent to scripture, i.e. astrology for example. That is the worship of creation and aligneing coincidental traits of personality to being born under scorpio, in my case. Romans 1 denounces that practice with stern warning. God's word is truth. In order to understand God you must know his word. Graham and other false teachers want to detract people from God through deception and lies disguised as intellectual pursuit. Bashing? I did not want to bash you, just the false teaching that you have been decieved by. Blatent Denial? Yes absolutely and unappologetically. Buddah = atheism. Hindu = so many gods that they can not be numbered. SemiGnostic = heretical pseudo christian beliefs and writtings long after the 1rst century that teach opposite of the cononical new testament. Deconstruction = the useless attempts to create doubt in the Christian faith by sowing incongruence in its truth with superficial comparrisons pretending they are contridictions.

 

You can’t produce any evidence that they are false, but I can show that yours are false by presenting an almost endless stream of examples. Graham’s teachings are false only in your mind. My understanding of them is not based on acceptance; but rather on sensible evaluation. Your domain is riddled with acceptance that evades sensible evaluation.

No, that is your circumstance. Your belief system is upheld by belief because it has no real support by any other means. It is an invention of Hebrews, Jews, and Gentiles, with a brazenly false bravado of originality. It has stolen much of its material from other races and claims the reverse, despite cases where there is historical proof of the heathen precedent.

The Gentiles hijacked the spiritual Christ and turned him into an overblown historical figure that can’t be validated. The Jews’ rejection of him as a messiah is a credit to their sensibility. The latter ought to serve as a wakeup call to the Gentiles, but no, ignorance is bliss.

Much of the esoteric material in the Bible actually supports my position, which is backed up by contributions from several other races and includes the ancient wisdom-knowledge. These races were not so conceited, insecure, and intolerant that they resorted to the massive burning of others’ books, as the fanatical Christians did in their effort to obliterate competition and cover up the dishonesty of their scriptural thievery.

The impression that the Bible is superior to other sources is also an illusion, one that stems from the Hebrews’ excessive boasting, their pretense of having a hot line to God, and their habitual libel of other races. The notion that the Hebrews/Jews were the “chosen race” is a pipe dream that is not supported by a cosmological interpretation of pertinent scripture. Simpler fraudulence is in Mt. Sinai, Ezekiel, and Lazarus, but I won’t explain here.

What a bunch of sheer nonsense. The only reliable truth is that which is arrived at through contemplation of the real world, not contemplation of divinity. What kind of God would let the fate of a world hinge upon the fickleness of a puny human? Original sin and the fall have been debunked and exposed as priestly stage props that are a perverse retelling of an ancient cosmology in terms of mythology, the subject of which is creation of the world. The concept of God as an avenger exacting retribution and repentance from the sinful imperfection of his own making is REJECTED. The implication that western religions have a MONOPOLY ON TRUTH is REJECTED. The concept of a monstrous anthropomorphic personified supernatural overlord is REJECTED, and all such imagined authority over spirit is invalidated. The concept of a God creating the sole pathway for redemption of the entire human race through the torturing and death of His Son is REJECTED as barbaric nonsense and an intentional disempowerment of the masses.

You have demonstrated that you don’t know anything but opinionated brainwashing.

Actually, there is plenty in that book that agrees with what is written in the Bible, but most of the agreement is with the esoteric meaning.

Analysis that runs contrary to scripture is done with justification. The book does not use astrology. It does sometimes refer to aspects of the Zodiac, which is not exclusive territory of astrology; it does so for comparisons and to illustrate the derivation and pervasive incorporation of such material in the scriptures. Your point is thus invalid. If you think the Zodiac is not used in the Bible, think again: Job 38:31, 32; Ezekiel 1:10.

Thus we are stingers in a duel. Though now irrelevant, it wouldn’t surprise me if you have Taurus as a moon sign or rising sign or some other influential aspect. I would not claim that all such persons monopolize this trait of stubborn conviction and all-out resistance to contradictory evidence, but I have met some surprising examples that do.

When the truth about the Bible’s origins and composition are known, there is no reason to consider hardly any of it to be the word of God, but rather just a hodge-podge collection of mythic excerpts plagiarized from older races and distorted into propaganda. There is no such personified overlord as claimed; therefore diverting people from said God is diverting them toward truth, not away from it. Graham does not use any deception or lies; you can’t produce any examples of him doing that or making any disguises, intellectual or otherwise.

Priestcraft tells us that the world was created by Somebody saying Let it be, and then the whole story is sugar-coated to paint a picture of everything being handed down from a kind, loving, merciful, moral, and just God. This is a deceptive picture, putting divinity on the wrong end of being. Creation is a violent, nonmoral, unconscious process wherein energy dominates over consciousness. This is the beginning of real truth, but the cunning priests concealed it.

There is really nothing of substance for you to denounce here. Buddism and Hinduism provide excellent contributions of metaphysical concepts, and these can be recognized in the esoteric content of the Bible. Buddists appear to have a high degree of integrity and spiritual development. However, I am not familiar with the religious practices of either sect, and have nothing to do with the Hindu plethora.

Christianity subverted the Gnostics whose independent spiritual Christhood would not serve to foster the expansion of a religion, the subjugation of a population, and the building of a priestly hierarchy. Anything outside the canon of 312 A.D. garnered the heretic label and was suppressed from then on, but since this is a free country, heretics now have the right to compete.

You can throw that label “deconstruction” all around as much as you want to, but the bottom line is that the Bible has been exposed for what it is, and much if not all of it has been thoroughly debunked. There have been some new discoveries that seem to mitigate some issues, but the extent of original priestly whitewashing is such that an irreconcilable preponderance is likely to remain. There’s nothing superficial about this business, and the Bible’s wealth of obvious contradictions are well known. The business of trashing the less obvious ones is not a process of superficial pretending.

Are you satisfied that we are accomplishing nothing by continuing to butt heads, other than practice value and observer interest?

 

This tie was omitted in my learning curve. See my previous post if you're not already aware of it.