Did Palestine ever really exist.... not according to History....

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  1. nononono

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    History of Israel : What is Palestine and Palestinians ?



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    In recent history the area called Palestine includes the territories of present day Israel and Jordan (see map above. For earlier history of the term see article). From 1517 to 1917 most of this area remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.

    Ottoman Empire was dissolved at the end of World War I. Its successor, modern republic of Turkey, transferred Palestine to British Empire control under the Lausanne agreement that followed WW I.

    In 1917 Great Britain issued the Balfour Declaration for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". In 1922 Britain allocated nearly 80% of Palestine to Transjordan. Thus, Jordan covers the majority of the land of Palestine under British Mandate. Jordan also includes the majority of the Arabs who lived there. In other words, Jordan is the Arab portion of Palestine.

    The residents of Palestine are called "Palestinians". Since Palestine includes both modern day Israel and Jordan both Arab and Jewish residents of this area were referred to as "Palestinians".

    It was only after the Jews re-inhabited their historic homeland of Judea and Samaria, that the myth of an Arab Palestinian nation was created and marketed worldwide. Jews come from Judea, not Palestinians. There is no language known as Palestinian, or any Palestinian culture distinct from that of all the Arabs in the area. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. "Palestinians" are Arabs indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the Middle East. The great majority of Arabs in greater Palestine and Israel share the same culture, language and religion.

    Much of the Arab population in this area actually migrated into Israel and Judea and Samaria from the surrounding Arab countries in the past 100 years. The rebirth of Israel was accompanied by economic prosperity for the region. Arabs migrated to this area to find employment and enjoy the higher standard of living. In documents not more than hundred years, the area is described as a scarcely populated region. Jews by far were the majority in Jerusalem over the small Arab minority. Until the Oslo agreement the major source of income for Arab residents was employment in the Israeli sector. To this day, many Arabs try to migrate into Israel with various deceptions to become a citizen of Israel.

    Even the Chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Arafat himself, is not a "Palestinian". He was born in Egypt. The famous "Palestinian covenant" states that Palestinians are "an integral part of the Arab nation" -- a nation which is blessed with a sparsely populated land mass 660 times the size of tiny Israel (Judea, Samaria and Gaza included).

    All attempts to claim Arab sovereignty over Israel of today, should be seen with their real intention: The destruction of Israel as a Jewish state and the only bulwark of the Judeo-Christian Western civilization in the Middle East.



    Oslo accords and "Peace Process"

    The Oslo "Peace" accords have not brought peace. The number of terror attacks against Israel and the number of Israelis killed by Arab terror bombings greatly escalated after Oslo to a level that has not been seen since 1948 (see statistics). The Palestinian Authority has repeatedly violated all aspects of the agreement (see full report of violations).

    Recent armed violence by the army of Arafat confirm the predictions that this agreement would escalate the conflict rather than subdue it (see article). In the history there are many examples of international "peace agreements" that were rapidly followed by major wars. A well known relevant case is the Munich agreement signed by Chamberlain from Great Britain and Hitler from Germany in 1938, which was rapidly revoked by Hitler as German armies invaded Czechoslovakia in 1939 (see article).

    The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Fatah Constitution that is adopted as the unofficial constitution of the Palestinian Authority also calls for the destruction of the Jewish State in most of its clauses.
     
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    RonnieFan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh boy, you do know you've started trouble, right?

    That debate has been around since the birth of the PLO and the heydays of Yasser Arafat.
     
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    It was called Palestine since 500 BC. I don't know who wrote this crap, but they are lying out their butts.
     
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    Just change the name of Jordan to Palestine.
     
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    If we're going to base things off ancient territorial claims then I think we might need to reestablish the Roman Empire.
     
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    Palestine was a province of Syria in 500 BC..

    Also Shakespeare and Chaucer write about Palestine. I get tired of these half baked nitwits.
     
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    There's been a place called Palestine but no such thing as a Palestinian nation or such a thing as a Palestinian people. It's an invention used to get at Israel.

    Crack a book open and read once in awhile.
     
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    Palestine never needed Israel to exist; Israel just made a de facto nation with the Palestinian people (who, granted, would otherwise share a lot genetically speaking with their neighbors). As we speak it is also becoming a de jure one, too.

    Palestinians are more semitic than their Ukrainian invaders, that's for sure.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Palestinians are nothing more than pawns for those who hate Israel. There is no shortage of land or wealth in the region if there was any real desire to help them develop into a thriving, peaceful state.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    denying the right of the Palestinian people to exist, is a hell of a way to get people to support Israel.

    in fact, it will accomplish the OPPOSITE
     
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    Isnt that the basis for Israels claims?
     
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    That's odd. On TV they were saying Israel is willing to recognize Palestine, but the Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.
    But then again it might be Fake News...... or Real News.
     
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    Why would they want to part of something they supposedly doesnt think exists....

    Logic.. come on!

    The "TV" lies.
     
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    A large portion of the Eastern US was called "Appalachia" and still is today. Please point out the "Appalachians" for us all in a way that secures their rights in any land... you won't... because you can't... because there aren't any.

    Same with "Palestinians," exactly the same in fact.
     
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    Most of the nations on Earth recognize the State of Palestine.

    denying that the Palestinians exist or that they have a right to a state, is a great way to LOSE support for Israel and by extension...the Jews.
     
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    Careful, the Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Picts, Bretons, Ostragoths, Visigoths, Vandals, Scythians, Rus... etc., etc. will all be claiming their "ancestral homelands" next.

    "Palestinians" is just typical ME anti-Semitism at play, and transparently so to any historically aware observer.
     
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    Genetic research prove that the Ashkenazi Jews are not pure descendants of the ancient Judeans, but are in fact a mixture of ancient Judeans and European converts.
     
  18. nononono

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    That was not the intention. Just wanted to reiterate the Truth.....


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    Prove it with some facts........otherwise your all hot air....
     
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    You would be referring to Philistine ( Plesheth ) an area called Canaan. Early inhabitants were of Greek origin NOT Arab.

    Palestinians and the country of Palestine never existed.

     
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    That's a good one. Too bad those who wish to kill them aren't doing DNA tests.
     
  21. nononono

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    Inter breeding has been going on forever ......your statement does not support anything in regards to Palestine being real.


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    Who broke the original Treaty first....?
     
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    so you're saying the Roman Province of Judaea never existed, and neither did the Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea?
     
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    Well I'm less concerned with historial interpretation than I am about present day fact.

    That fact being that Palestine is not a nation, its a group of people who terrorize Israel.
     
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    most of the nations of the world recognize Palestinians as a people and Palestine as a state.

    you have lost the war of public opinion
     

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