Discussion pertaining to the militia act of 1792

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Xenamnes, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your emotional appeal to authority has no factual basis!
     
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    The sheer number of laws in existence is not evidence of them being constitutional by default, however. It is merely evidence of the system being flooded in a deliberate effort to bog down the public and leave them without any hope of persevering over a corrupt system of government.
     
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    Paranoid conspiracy fallacy duly noted for the record and ignored since it does not impinge upon the Constitutionality of the Law of the Land.
     
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    The united states constitution is the law of the land. All other laws are not. And with very few exception, none of the laws of the united states are constitutional.
     
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    WRONG on all counts for the umpteenth time!

    You don't have any authority to fallaciously redefine the meaning of the term Law of the Land.

    Furthermore you have ZERO authority to fallaciously declare that "none of the laws" are constitutional.

    No amount of kneejerk denialism and hissfit foot stomping on your part is going to alter the FACTUAL REALITY as STIPULATED above.
     
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    Laws made in pursuance of the united states constitution. That is not the same thing as all laws. Therefore laws are not constitutional by mere virtue of being signed into law.
     
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    :roflol:

    Your semantic squirming above reveals that you don't even know what that term actually means.

    Regurgitating your DEBUNKED bovine excrement does not alter the fact that it remains bovine excrement that you are utterly incapable of substantiating.

    :roflol:
     
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    Constitutionality is determined by the united state supreme court, not by politicians who are elected on the basis of telling the best lies to the public.
     
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    Flailing drivel sans substantiation ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    It is a simple, undeniable fact. United states politicians have no concept of what is and is not constitutional, as they have no understanding of what the united states constitution itself is about.
     
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    Everyone knows this. Everyone.
    He's trolling you.
     
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    You have a right to express your fallacious OPINION on this matter but your ongoing FAILURE to provide anything with any shred of factual substance is effectively downgrading your own credibility.
     
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    As opposed to the credibility of one who made themselves known for constantly shouting "NRA gun culture of death!" with complete disregard to whatever facts were otherwise being discussed?

    The only thing needed to demonstrate credibility on the part of myself, is how the united state supreme court itself has stated all laws are presumptively lawful, not constitutional. Whereas the burden of proof on the part of yourself to demonstrate that laws are constitutional by the mere virtue of being law, is substantially higher, to the point of being insormountable.
     
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    You have completely and utterly FAILED to provide any citation from the SCOTUS supporting your allegation that "all laws are presumptively lawful, not constitutional".

    Since you have failed to meet your own burden of proof while I have easily met my own that failure on your part downgrades your own credibility.
     
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    The citation was in the Heller ruling, where the united state supreme court specified the numerous firearm-related restrictions they did not undertake an analysis of were merely presumptively lawful at the time. It specifically stated that the various restrictions did not qualify as being constitutional, simply because they did not spend the time to examine their merits.

    No proof was presented on the part of yourself. Merely claims of being right and stubborn denials and outright refusals to substantiate these baseless claims. And considering the long history of shouting "NRA gun culture of death!" that has been demonstrated on the part of yourself, there is an exceedingly long road of travel necessary to establish credibility on the part of yourself.
     
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    Everyone knows this. Everyone.
    He's trolling you.
     
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    My position is supported 100% by the citations I have provided from the Constitution itself.

    FTR your utterly BOGUS allegation that the Heller decision contains the ruling that "all laws are presumptively lawful, not constitutional" does NOT exist anywhere in the actual text.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

    Your endless FAILURE to even ATTEMPT to provide your imaginary FICTITIOUS citation from the Heller ruling duly noted since it is a further DOWNGRADING of your already negative credibility rating.
     
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    He just made it up
     
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    That is a polite way of saying that it was pulled out of their nether regions! ;)
     
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    The lack of reading comprehension skills being possessed on the part of yourself, is not the fault of myself. Nor is it the fault of myself that the understanding of united states law possessed on the part of yourself is factually deficient.

    Then again such is to be expected when the one being addressed is not actually a citizen of the united states.
     
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    He does not even live in the US. But he seems to think he understands our constitution
     
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    YOU are NOT a US citizen? :eek:

    That EXPLAINS a great deal!

    You made this UTTERLY BOGUS allegation about the Heller ruling!

    Not only does that statement NOT appear ANYWHERE in the text there is only a SINGLE use of the term "presumptively" in a FOOTNOTE to the ruling. That FOOTNOTE makes NO MENTION whatsoever of the term "unconstitutional".

    That you are utterly INCAPABLE of supporting your own bovine excrement in this matter has now been established well BEYOND any reasonable doubt whatsoever.

    Any further DENIALISM on your part will be nothing more than petulant whining because you have been exposed as posting nonsensical unsubstantiated crap once again.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Yet another misunderstanding of fact on the part of yourself. It is yourself who is being accused of not being a citizen of the united states, due to not understanding how the legal system of the united states works.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Ironic PROJECTION duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.

    FTR you were once again unable to address any of the points established in that post which is why you are resorting to puerile ad hom VIOLATIONS of PF Rules.
     
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