Do gays really want to be equal?

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  1. smileyface

    smileyface Banned

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    That may well be your normal but it certainly isn't mine. But thanks for sharing your opinion.
     
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    It is as abnormal to the heterosexual and heterosexuality is abnormal to the gay.
     
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    Homosexuality is different to the majority but not abnormal as well.
     
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    It is perfectly normal for a gay to be sexual with a same sex partner. It would be abnormal for them not to.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    You are missing factors you need to plug-in to your logical formula. It seems there are 'variables' which cannot be determined from what you submit.

    And for me, PC is fine if it's for the purpose of promoting a modicum of civility.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, that is your opinion, which you are certainly entitled to. Regardless of whether or not same sex relations or normal or not, they still occur and will continue even if you disagree with it.

    Since it is occurring the government should not discriminate based on the partner one chooses to marry; they allow marriages to occur between the elderly and sterile couples everyday so potential child barring is not a factor in marriage.

    Back to my point that you ignored:
     
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    Thanks for all those abormal thoughts on abnormal sexual habits.

    But I will stick to my normal hetrosexual habits, which unfortunately, due to the ageing process, is becoming less common, but still not unusual!
     
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    You are clearly misled.

    Are you sure that what you're doing is "normal"? (Some might surely disagree with you.)

    Okay.
     
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    I don't think anyone has asked you to change your sexual nature.
     
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    His "abnormal" thoughts in agreement with gay rights in general appear to be normal given the 53% of Americans who support SSM...

    Mad world ain't it?
     
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    As you are sharing your opinion. Youve just convinced yourself that your opinions are correct, while anyone with an opposing opinion is incorrect. Thats your ideology dictating your reality.
     
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    ????

    In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normality_(behavior)

    Red hair, functions just like any other color of hair. Left hands work identically to right hands. Neither of these are a "significant deviation".

    Heterosexual sex leads to the perpetuation of the human species.
    Homosexual sex leads to 61% of the new HIV cases in the US and has never lead to procreation. A very significant deviation form the average person who has sex with people of the opposite sex. But your probably gay, so sex is only about orgasms for you
     
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    Nooooo, I quoted the information and the conclusions are yours.
     
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    Still waiting for something on topic and that shows why gay marriage should be banned.
     
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    Youre 100% right. Its not equal. So lets make it equal. Lets go around and brutally attack and murder people just for being straight.. That guy over there in the football jersey and the work boots, forcing his straight agenda down our throats, we'll tie him to a pickup truck and drag him around for a while., cool?

    What you seem to miss is that we (I include myself as a bisexual male who does lean towards heterosexuality) want equality in the basest sense of the word, but for that to happen, a long time will need to pass to erase or at least ease the extreme anti-homosexual bias that is rampant not only in the U.S. but around the world.

    The very idea that you think laws created in light of horrifically violent and prevalent actions are unequal shows that you don't even realize that, as I just stated, the laws were created in the first place because gay dudes and ladies were getting hacked up just for being gay. So ya know what, maybe its not fair. Neither is the idea that spray painting a Swastika is more offensive than a simple "F*** You," but I'm (*)(*)(*)(*) happy that its included in that hate crime law as well.
     
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    Nobody has "banned" "gay marriage". They wont even inquire into your sexuality. And even here in conservative central Tx you can go down to the local church of christ, look lovingly into your boyfriends eyes and declare to death do you part, and the preacher will declare you to be whatever you like.
     
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    #1: Animals engage in sexual activities for reasons other than mating, and this has been observed not just in humans but in other apes, cetaceans, and birds as well.

    #2: Not every male, not even most males of a given species mate at all, let alone successfully. The majority of ours do. Combine that with no natural predators and very few diseases and I think you'll find our numbers to be just fine. If anything, homosexuals are helping our species by adopting children that would otherwise spend most if not all of their childhood in state care.

    #3: Red hair does not function the same as non-ginger hair, and you saying that it does only confirms to me that you are a soulless ginger who needs to be tossed back into the fires of hell from whence you came.
     
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    They also engage in ifanticide and cannibalism. I dont think we should look to the animal kingdom for standards of behavior

    Again, marriage isnt about procreation. It is about dealing with the product of that procreation. Blacks in the US have significantly lower rates of marriage, and higher birth rates. The result being, the majority of black children being born to and raised by single mothers. And the higher poverty, juvenile delinquincy, drug and alchohol abuse, teen pregnancy, HS dropouts and criminal convictions as an adult that goes along with it.

    ????? Any two consenting adults can adopt. You need some justification for special treatment for those couples who happen to be homosexual. And absurd to demand that two gay parents be given equal preference to biological parents, as if gays are somehow equally advantageous to childrens wellbeing as their biological parents would be.

    Probably more children, right now, being raised by a single parent and grandparent, than have EVER been raised by homosexuals, and yet you demand that gays be given a preference over them, OR ANY TWO CONSENTING ADULTS who might choose to join together to raise a child. Makes no logical sense, unless of course your true goal is simply normalizing homosexuality.

    ???? Makes about as much sense as your arguments for gay marriage.
     
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    Uuuuhhh hyuck hyuck hyuck...your a funny guy!


    That marriage wouldn't be a valid, government recognized, legally binding marriage.

    Try again.
     
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    Ah, so when you speak of "banned" "gay marriage", what you really mean is witheld tax breaks and governmental entitlements.
     
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    Governmental entitlements?

    You mean the right to visit a significant other that's on their death bed in a hospital?

    Or the secured custody of children in the event of a parents death?

    Or the transference of a significant others pension in the event of a death?

    Or the passing of property in the event of a significant others death?

    Or shared insurance for significant others?

    Because those are entitlements, rather than rights married couples share.
     
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    Marriage between homosexuals degrades the meaning of marriage beyond all measure. It is no more than one big sham to please the PC crowd!
     
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    You have an opinion, congratulations.
     
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    Roughly 40% of marriages end in divorce.

    And I guarantee you at least 1/2 of the rest are unhappily married but put up with it for various reasons.

    Plus look at the massive number of infidelities.

    And the escort/pornographic businesses are FAR and away patronized by married men.

    Marriage already is a joke.
     
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    I dont know how to separate your sentences so I'll address your points one by one.

    Your point about african americans makes it sound like you would support gay marriage, since as you stated, children raised by single rather than married parents have higher rates of crime and drug abuse. If gay couples were allowed to marry, this would not be true for them then would it?

    Any two consenting adults can adopt, but gays have to adopt. By the numbers, I'd say that since 90% of all couples are heterosexual, they're not doing much adoption now are they?

    My last comment about your soulless gingerhood was a joke, I actually can't believe you took that seriously hahaha
     
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