Do you Trust Religious or Non-Religious people more?

Do you Trust Religious or Non-Religious people more?

 

I trust fire breathing atheist, as much as I trust the whole bible thumping fire and brimstone crowd. You are both equally fanatical, and similar in many ways.

 

But are we (atheists) really the fanatical ones? You strike me as a decent, rational man, so I will lay out my logic of being an Atheist in those terms.

If we are being totally honest, then I think we all can answer these questions with relative ease.

-Who is actively trying to dictate moral legitimacy to people based on ideas that originated in times of human slavery, Atheists or Religious people?

-Who is actively trying to prevent people from getting married to those they love, Atheists or Religious people?

-Is it Atheists or Religious people who in current times want to kill people for their beliefs?

-How many buildings have been blown up by Atheists in modern times in the name of Atheism?

-Why is it that so few companies and people with money choose to invest and live in the state of Alabama?

 

Honest people. I trust people that have demonstrated honesty to me.

All others I reserve my decision, until I have more interaction with them, or research them/their positions on anything.

 

Neither. They are all people.

 

I trust dogs and cats and rabbits.

 

Couldn't vote in your poll. Too bad you didn't add a choice that was something like, "It doesn't matter to me whether they're religious or not". Do you understand that a great many of us simply don't CARE what a person's religious affiliation is. The only thing that matters is a person's truthfulness and personal integrity. I know atheists who are honest and truthful, and I know other Christians (I'm one also) that are also honest and truthful.

 

Oh you care, you simply don't like it that most people don't actually trust a religious person over a secular person who knows it's all bullshit and you know this and you don't like it is all.

It's fascinating truly because even "fellow zealots" don't trust other fellow zealots over a secular person, indicating and demonstrating truly just how much of a social ponzi scheme religion really is by the sheer fact that on a subconscious level not even you and your fellow zealots really trust each other.

On a subconscious level, you and them know it's all a lie and you hedge your bets against the lie by not actually rallying behind it in such a poll.

 

There are several categories that come to mind; athiest, agnostic, christian, religious. Of those four I distrust religious the most.

 

If you make such broad, sweeping, unsubstantiated assumptions in other matters that are far more important to your well-being than what you imagine other people are really thinking, or with what duplicity you imagine that they deliberately employ in expressing their hypocritical opinions, your wretched life will always be fraught with error and self-induced anxiety. I pity you.... Reality: you have no idea who I or anyone else here "trusts", or doesn't, or what we "like", and it's boorish and doctrinaire of you to imagine that you do....

Hint: when you arrive at the point in which you suspect people you've decided that you dislike are lying to you, without any motive, then, indeed, the only person you can trust is yourself. Sometimes that is very self-protective, but, sometimes it leads to a series of delusions that will ruin your entire life. If so, I pity you even more....

."You're out to get me!" . . . . "Why the hell would I WANT to...?"

 

You know sir, you can just say "I'm afraid to vote in this poll because I know nobody really trusts religious people over educated secular people." It's okay. You can be brave. Truth takes courage. All a religious person truly is is scared and I get that, you're scared. You don't have to be scared though sir. The universe willed you into existence to be one of the most powerful organisms within it potentially. The Universe did not intend when it created you over trillions of other possibilities for you not to live your life to the fullest. It represents nature. It is nature. The Universe is Nature and it wants its creation to live, not sit around miserable as a fake conservative. You were meant to live and be free not exist in a conservative mental hell that amounts to nothing and prevents you from reaching your full universal potential as an organism of the Universe.

The Universe wants you to live. Not be miserable as a conservative. Live sir. Live.

 

I trust honest, especially intellectually honest, people more. Therefore non-religious people. However, religious people generally mean well and are good people, which is true of people universally, so that doesn't mean too much. We all know that overt religiosity does not always indicate genuine religiosity, but overt non-religiosity is very likely genuine since people aren't generally compelled to fake that.

 

Any secular humanist would blush here. I will give you a link to logical fallacies in argumentation. You go through your own paragraph and identify every pile of crap line you threw in this silly embarrassing emotional ****. An atheist should apply reason when he or she promotes an idea, not take a dump on it. This has all the soundness of overt propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

 

I don't trust anyone.

 

I'm an Atheist and I have no issue with it whatsoever. Nobody is implying "divinity" to the universe. Just that we are a very small part of it but definitely a part of it.

 

Just proves that some atheists are just as manipulative and illogical when they try to argue as any theist. I love this " You know sir, you can just say "I'm afraid to vote in this poll because I know nobody really trusts religious people over educated secular people." It's okay. You can be brave. Truth takes courage. All a religious person truly is is scared and I get that, you're scared... " now tell me the logical basis for line of reasoning. Remember to consider and exclude all other hypothesis, as you determine this poster's emotional response to your poll. Prove that this guy is not bored, or bemused, or frustrated or intellectually too insulted to participate in YOUR POLL. Go for it! While you are at it you can assert and defend a hypothesis for what I chose to do and say in this thread. You got the power of reason and logic. Use it.

 

You and others are afraid that if you do not subscribe emotionally and mentally and attempt to subscribe others to a human-created, fake "religion" that you will become lost in life because the reality that you are merely another animal, albeit an advanced one, is too much for you. You can't handle the reality that we are simply evolved animals with no special privilege beyond the fact that we occupy the top spot on this planet in a giant universe that likely cares nothing for us. However my only argument is that in some respect that does make us "Special" organisms of this planet in that we are the most evolved so far however I'm under no illusion that far more advanced organisms in the universe would scoff at that notion and see us as mere monkeys.

 

Except that was not the assertion you made in your post. you decided to assert why someone else who you do not know, did not participate in your poll and vote the way you decided that they ought to. the only 'reason' you proposed, was that he was 'frightened'. That seems pretty sloppy to me, because I can see a lot of reasons why someone might not behave as you proscribed, for the reason you proscribed. I am asking you to broaden past your own stated theory, and reach for the stars! List all those other possibilities you examined, and tell me why you excluded the rest. Lets see your rational best work here.

 

He didn't participate in the poll because he's scared of reality, just like you are sir.

 

That is a possibility, Mr. Atheist. Now lets examine the quality of the logic you employed here. what are the other possibilities that might induce someone not to vote in your poll the way you decided he ought to, and tell us all why you discarded them.

 

Alright.

The reasons why someone, especially an esteemed member of this forum, may not want to vote in this poll:


-They are scared of facing the reality that all religions, including their own, are fake and human-created and that truth scares them because they haven't fully accepted or learned science.

-Esteemed members of this board of the supra Christian Nutjob conservative faction may lose credibility if they vote in this poll to other members of the supra Christian Nutjob conservative faction, hence they don't vote.

 

Two other possibilities. Now lets try to stretch this imagination of yours. Can you think outside of your agenda based prism and egocentric application, to other possible reasons why someone might not respond to your poll in the way you decided he ought. You can't learn if you won't do your homework! Stretch that mind of yours. What other hypothesis can you find?.

 

It is rare indeed, that I would say anything like this, to anyone, about anything... but, this rant of yours (above) against me, a person you don't even know at all, is utterly full of baseless, contrived CRAP.

I'm not the bravest man you've ever met, nor surely the most cowardly. I live my life exactly as I wish, given only limitations in wealth, and those that are all part of living in a world full of other human beings. If nothing else, believe this: I am an independent-minded Conservative with respect for many people of many different cultures and belief-systems, and, I certainly do not (NOT) fear people like you or whatever it is that you 'think'....

 

What has that to do with trustworthiness?

I don't trust atheists because they recognize no authority greater than their own appetites.

 

What do their positions have to do with honesty?