Does Broward Schools' Program Coddle Troubled Students and Excuse Dangerous Behavior?

Ok... so I am going to open with some old ****. Remember Trayvon Martin? Some of you were in that fight. You remember that he was caught with stolen ****, fighting etc. And there was this odd policy where in order to reduce statistical blights, crimes were handled by the schools, not police, in an effort to prevent youth of disadvantage from entering the criminal justice system, as well as improving certain scores.

Broward became a "model" under the previous administration.
The promise program.
https://www.browardprevention.org/behavior/promise/

Here is a long article most of you won't read which really explains the idea and intent. It is not exactly a conservative site.
http://m.prospect.org/article/reversing-broward-countys-school-prison-pipeline

It would appear that this policy drove Obama policy.
Btw, remember this racist ****? https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...-initiative-educational-excellence-african-am

No, you dont. Dont comment on that unless you address the rest of the post you lazy ****s.

So... in order to better serve their criminal constintuates, there was a policy in Broward county to not submit to law enforcement criminal actions like making threats, bringing ammunition to school,

http://sunshinestatenews.com/story/...led-students-and-excuse-dangerous-misbehavior

Remember... you care about prevention. Thanx.

 

They all do it. Obamas "promise program" paid cops to ignore problem kids. Great idea barack

 

Did the Las Vegas shooter go to Broward?

How about the Sutherland Springs Church?

To name only those that have happened this year

 

So you don't want to discuss this school shooting which has prompted this "student led" movement sponsored by the ususal suspects. Noted. Start your own thread to discuss whatever you like. This thread is about the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School shooting.

Good day.

Btw, 6 minutes was not enough time to read my links. You didn't. That's how much you ****ing care.

 

I have spoken at some length already the hypocrisy of a Leftist Sheriff hiding the truth and attacking the NRA and guns in order to save his own job and to not draw attention to the abysmal failure of the incredibly progressive reactive law enforcement there in Broward County.

That policy failed not because reactive law enforcement is bad or the PROMISE program wasn't designed well. It's very thorough. From an academic standpoint. It is insanely difficult to implement however and as is documented for all to see suffered from persistent and systemic failures partially due to incompetence, lack of training, and oversight...

There is also a greed factor. Broward County received alot of money in its coffers from the fed government since it lowered its arrest rate by 63%. Courtesy of Holder and Obama. It wasn't that crimes weren't being committed. There were. They just weren't arresting people. Particularly juveniles. The what's it called uh school to prison pipeline had been stopped.

I mean it's a very long, documented list of evidence already out that this leftist Sheriff had created a political, pork barreling juggernaut for friends and supporters.

Not much law enforcement.

But seriously OP. Do you think a single leftist will admit any of the above? It's all true. It would mean their entire ideology and vision is lacking in practicality and easily corrupted. They can't allow that so the problem is guns

 

No liberal will give a flying **** and in 2 hours this thread will be pushed off page 1 by Trump bashing Russia blathering nonsense.

The "systems" of law enforcement and school policy failed here but all the bigot mob wants to talk about is gun-grabbing.

Well **** that.

Liberal gun grabbers always talk about "wahhh this could have been prevented" while vaguely detailing "calls for action" that would neither be practical nor Constitutional.

But here we actually have a clear cut case of something that could have been prevented and it has nothing to do with guns, nothing to do with gun owners, nothing to do with the NRA, nothing to do with Republicans, and nothing to do with Trump.

Yet where is the focus of the army of bigots?

Yea, as usual, its located nowhere near the realm of logic.

 

Was the "Promise Program" only for Broward County Florida?

 

It is all the fault of George Soros and the Bildeburgers Iluminnatizided alien Big Foot UFO driving Vapor Trail causing One World Democrats Whigs and KnowNothigs Lesbian loving cross dressing Blong Blangers anti Christian pro Zionist pinko eggheads.....

 

Liberal Logic

A long and still growing list of critical failures on part of the FBI, local police, and the school...

...blame the NRA.




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Affirmative Action for bizarro world. throwing the 14th Amendment in the garbage to systematically give a leg up to physical characteristics is one thing....

systematically covering up the dangerous and chronic behavioral problems of physical characteristics is another thing altogether.

Ann Coulter weighed in on this. brilliantly: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/28/ann-coulter-school-mass-murder-pipeline/

related thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-school-to-mass-murder-pipeline.527458/

 

Hmmmmmm expected this as the attempt to ignore the entire issue of mass shootings was plain as day from the OP

 

Again does this explain the issues causing the Virginia Tech shootings? Orlando? Las Vegas? Sandy Hook? Aurora?

There are simply too many to list

 

It has a like program in Miami Dade.

Read through the promise link, all the school systems involved are listed.

 

refresh me, did any of those shooters have repeated...here, let me repeat that... REPEATED contact with government agencies prior to their act?

We're talking about a collaborative justice system reform initiative that actively and specifically shields troubled minority children from the justice system....an initiative that systematically looks at youthful offenders' skin color and/or ethnicity and either protects them from the justice system, or lets justice take its course. That's not even remotely constitutional, and could never be confused with something that deems community safety of primary, or even secondary importance.

 

All of them also, except for the Vegas shooter, had things that would have precluded them from legally purchasing firearms.

Had they been put into NICS, of course.

Liberal logic: The government is incompetent. The government needs more power and we need less rights.

 

that wasn't racist, it was to help unarmed children who have problems. your guy was a second amendment kid.

 

Air Force Failed to Report Texas Church Gunman Devin Kelley’s Domestic Violence Convictions

The common theme emerging is the authorities dropped the ball and people died. If they can't get simple reporting right, what makes you think they can actually keep guns out of the hands of criminals?

 

Then find a way to arm themselves.

 

our people embrace cowardice and non violence

 

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The OP's question is purely speculative. As no study or research has been done on this, any answer is also purely speculative.
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I'd forgot about that. Thanks!

It's just government being government and as good as it gets.

 

I think it's near fact that the school board(s) in a close working partnership with the sheriff’s offices in both Broward and Miami Dade implemented a policy intent to lower arrest rates for students. It served two functions, approved social justice outcomes that fit political policy and by reducing arrest / police interactions the districts received more funds.

Kick around Florida local papers and stations, it's real.

It didn't start out with any malicious intent IMO. Folks were looking for solutions to the disparity in minorities school partisipation and graduation rates and to lower student arrest rates. It has been argued that the school to jail pipeline is the cause of disparate outcomes, so the second part of the equation as advanced (see promise program) is to create extra judicial diversion programs to be administered in house by the school board - sheriff’s department partnership. It worked, the sheriff stopped charging students for crimes. Amazingly the arrest rates dropped!

From an honest desire to help, make positive change, and just do something about the ugly reality of minority outcomes the program grew. It paid dividends too. Federal money flowed to both agencies. To maintain the cash flow the police / student interaction rates and arrest rates had to continue to "show progress year over year." This is where it got ugly, and those involved began realizing the program wasn't working as intended. They pressed on, looked the other way as larger and larger criminal behavior was hidden and underreported to keep it in house and the money, awards and trips to DC etc flying high.

Stay with this story Pax Aeon, it will shock you.

 

Excuse me? I don't think it requires a rocket scientist to look at the facts we have available and have an educated opinion ma'am.

Broward Counties arrest rate dropped 66% in just a year. After Superintendent Nuncie took over. An Obama close friend. Literally. It defies logic to assume that crimes were not being committed. They simply stopped arresting people. The schools were told not to call the police.

Then this :

On October 5, 2016, the School Board of Broward County Public Schools and its community partners signed the PROMISE agreement for the second time. After the 2016 signing, it was announced a couple of weeks later on October 18, BCPS was the only large urban district in the country to receive a Teacher Incentive Fund (TIF) grant from the U.S. Dept. of Edu totaling $53,808,909. One of the TIF's grant priorities is listed as "improved life for students in poverty/students of color."

It only gets worse from there. Both the Sheriff's office and the School Administration were complicit. That's why all of us that have seen the Spreadsheet on Cruzs call logs where it was documented multiple times of serious problems with the young man ending are like wtf? Ending late last year with a flat out detailed warning via a call to the Sheriff's office that documented his instability, his owning of guns and his violent nature. The article I linked to NPR runs it down. That call below? The Sheriff called them back and said they should call Palm Beach PD!

"Caller advised subject Nikolas Cruz is collecting guns and knives. Cruz wants to join the Army. Concerned he will kill himself one day and believes he could be a school shooter in the making. Caller advised Cruz was no longer living at the listed parkland address and is now living Lake Worth, FL. Believes the weapons are kept at a friend's house at an unknown location."

It wasn't just that the Sheriff's dept wasn't doing its job. They were doing exactly what they had been told to do. Nothing. Or pass it off. Or don't arrest them send a mental health worker etc etc. Same with the school.

I could fill up two pages with timelines, data, and sources of how this policy which is amazing in theory... Didn't work that well in practicality... And the financial rewards were to hard to resist... Unless anyone would like to tell me Sheriff Israel is a real Sheriff.. Not a politician.


Notice my two greatly varied links as sources below? I am probably one of the few Americans who are both a member of the NRA and an NPR supporter and member too.

Your right about an official investigation and it's going to be ugly

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...he-troubled-history-of-florida-school-shooter

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...arrested_and_unable_to_purchase_firearms.html

 

Hmmm and all the others?

 

Really? And how many had solid stand up in court reasons for being disarmed? Or are you suggesting that the police institute a policy of seizing weapons as soon as there is a report until an investigation is completed?