Dying white supremacist movement embraces Trump.

According to the luminaries of these hate groups, Trump has empowered their desiccated viewpoints and given them a pulse again.

If Trump is your guy, consider yourself in league with the likes of David Duke and the the KKK.

At the very least, Trump is opening the door to normalizing xenophobia, ethnocentrism, and generalized hatred in a way that hasn't been seen in mainstream politics in the United States for a long time.

Have a look in the mirror Donald; this is what's looking back at you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-americas-dying-white-supremacist-movement/

 

This can't be true. All over this forum conservative racists keep telling us that all the 'real' racists are in the Democratic Party.

 

Wondering if the Nation of Islam supports the Democratic Party?

 

To the White Supremacists, Trump is "The Great White Hope."

 

No one really gives a (*)(*)(*)(*). Hitler loved Disney , does that mean kids who like Peter Pan are racist who side with genocide?

 

In the example you provided, the admiration is running the opposite way. In the link I provided, white supremacists and white separatists are really excited because Trump has single-handedly reinvigorated their causes, opened doors to new conversations and membership, normalized some of the prejudices that often precipitate racism and bigotry, and given them a toehold again on a platform that is clearly mainstream. Stormfront had to upgrade all of its servers because of a Trump insurgency. These people are really excited. Read the article. It's the opposite of Hitler admiring Disney.

 

No , it's really not. Trump has done nothing and said nothing that supports the bigotry of white supremacy. Cracking down on immigration isn't racist and to claim it is comes down to a matter of opinion. Just because racist may also want to crack down on immigration , doesn't make enforcing the current laws racist. Just like hitler happening to like Disney doesn't make others who like Disney murdering nutcases.

 

I think Obama and company has helped make Trump a presidential contender. 54% of Americans oppose the resettlement of Syrian Refugees in this country.

http://time.com/4122938/refugees-syria-america-poll/

Support for president Obama's handling of ISIS is down to 33% and 68% want the president to step us action against ISIS. Only 23% of Americans think we are winning the war against ISIS.

http://www.pollingreport.com/isis.htm

As for building the wall between us and Mexico, 51% of Americans favor that.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._build_a_wall_deport_felon_illegal_immigrants

Then you have the fact most Americans think President Obama is more worried about Global Warming and gun control than terrorism and keeping America safe.

There's more, but you get the idea. Regardless of what one thinks of Trump, his popularity has a lot to do with the president's actions and non-actions. The president's job approval rating on foreign policy is down to 35%

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/93vz0m20tk/trackingreport.pdf

The president's overall job approval number is at 42%

http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=15168

I suppose the bottom line is that the president seems out of sync at the moment with quite a lot of Americans. ISIS is contained and then Paris and California happen. Terrorism has taken over the top spot as issues goes in this country and he talks about gun control and climate change.

Ignoring issues that most Americans are worried about has created Donald Trump and has made him fairly popular.

 

You can say that. But when people's worries and fears are not addressed, they latch onto someone else and it does seem that someone else is Donald Trump for all his faults.

 

Yes … Those of us who are familiar with history *shudder* at the Trump phenomenon, because it has a familiar odor and taste ...

 

The white supremacist movement isn't dying....that's why Trump is so popular. Nobody really believed the south was going to vote for Carson. The Ku Klux Klan are evangelicals.

 

It's just my opinion, but I think you should let go of the Disney/Hitler reference in this instance. The metaphor just doesn't really fit. Disney didn't serve Hilter's purposes at all whereas clearly Donald Trump's platform is serving white supremacists' purposes as evidenced in the article. Most of these leaders willingly admit that they don't think Trump is a white supremacist, but they all say his popularity has led to a windfall of interest and support.

And I would argue that Trump has said some things that support white supremacy. His wholesale vilification of Syrian refugees and muslims could be construed as such, as could his generalization and conflation about mexicans and the southern invasion of criminals, rapists, and drug dealers. There's always a nugget of truth to tease out of what he says, and that's where people tend to stake their flag, but the reality of the vast majority of his statements is that they are woefully wrong scaremongering.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ents-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/

Here's another example of Trump pulling information directly from white supremacists and injecting it into the mainstream:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-trump-hits-new-racist-tweet-article-1.2443413

The connections are there, the linkage is there.

 

Gosh, that means he will attract more democrats.

 

Again, I have to disagree. Disney served both hitlers and childrens purpose , which was to be entertained. Trump isnt proposing anything with white supremacy in mind, just like Disney didn't create videos to please hitler.

 

I agree with both of the statements you've made here. The asymmetry is that Trump (though not tacitly or deliberately) has provided a massive toe-hold for these people to climb back into mainstream conversations as if their positions are somehow justified. Hitler's appreciation of Disney was totally inconsequential. Surely you can concede that? The comparison is broken.


…or maybe you're making an equivalence that I'm just now understanding> Hitler (bad guy) appreciates Disney (entertainer); White Supremecists (bad guys) appreciate Trump (entertainer)?

 

Really. Why participate?

 

Ask them ? But so what. If the KKK supports the Republican party does that means all Republicans are racists?

 

I think the idea that white supremacists agree with some of trumps views is also inconsequential. They probably won't like his views on other issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Their isn't much trump can do about the white supremacists that follow him , and I'm sure he would rather have them not as it doesn't help his campaign.

 

What if his views embolden disaffected under-educated white guys to commit hate crimes from the swelling ranks of these people? It's pretty well documented that his events have a edge to them.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-trump-rally-ready-to-sue-for-hate-crime.html

Of course it's always a two-way street. There's surely an element of this that's out to provoke a response by showing up, and both sides are using the opportunity. The truth of it is that some caustic elements are out in the open and normalized by the existence of Trump's campaign.

 

Liberals say yes, if you like Disney or his cartoons you are a Nazi.

That's how the left thinks.

 

I agree largely with your second paragraph. A good example is a couple weeks back a group of 6 African Americans severely beat 2 white guys who had a Confederate flag on their truck. This is an unwanted side effect , imo, stemming from all the attention that the Confederate flag received recently. While the bulk supported the removal movement peacefully , some went out and did so violently. Both sides have idiots i guess is a good summary.

 

I wonder if you realize that when you traffic in blunt generalities, you're no better than what you're criticizing.

 

No, but if you are a white supremacist, who is going to allow your cause to advance more, Clinton or Trump? The supremacists know that. Trump knows that and he has already moved their cause forward. When you say something like "I'm sure some of them are good people" you might as well say "some of my best friends are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s."

 

I don't know what came over me, I think I went liberal for a minute.

 

I just wonder why you participate? Luckily it seems there are people willing to engage at lots of levels, so it's irrelevant. Hopefully you're parked in a lazy boy with a delicious frosty barley pop and smile on your face.