early counts show KAP outpolls the greens

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  1. bugalugs

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    Yes - Any military action that the UN doesn't sanction under either articles 39 or 51 of the UN Charter IS wrong. It is unlawful under international law and breaches Australia's international treaty obligations.

    It is not his opinion. It is wrong under law. There is nothing "funny" about that worldview whatsoever. It is shared by virtually everyone except for ignorant nutbags.

    BTW: How is the Alan Jones show nowdays? Still riveting listening?
     
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    I agree. I think the KAP picked up a lot of the labor vote on their 'supposed social economics', which may I add are not really social economics as much as they are fascist economics. That means extreme right wing economics. Both the Hitler and Musolini introduced similar policy when they first took power. Not the same for the obvious reason that we are now more of a global economy. However very similar in their origins.

    Labor lost the railway vote through state policy where as they lost the mining vote through federal policy. Railway and mining have been staunchly Labor through their strong union backgrounds, however they could not bring themselves to vote LNP so KAP picked up the protest.

    As with so many extremist parties ( KAP, One Nation, and Australian Greens ), they rely on the protest vote for their actual being. Without it they are nothing, ie: QLD Greens.

    Don't be concerned as it is merely protest from disenchanted voters. Both parties should take note that the people have decided to take back the power. so they need to start listening and pull their collective heads out of their big fat backsides.
     
  3. parker

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    I don't see how the Greens are extreme.

    Environmentalism is a fast growing ideology.
     
  4. efjay

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    So smashing down the doors at parliament house and rioting ISNT extreme?
     
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    In our political system we have a left and a right. Now Labor and Liberal usually sit either side of the disecting line. However over the past decade or so we have seen a shift by the Labor party more towards the right of where they normally sit, and the Liberals have shifted even further right than they already were. Now that gives us a Labor Party that is more in line of Frasers Liberal party. No wonder Fraser always seems to endorse them ! They are a more conservative left side of politics than we have ever seen. This may be because of a more global economy or perhaps the swift move of the Libs to a more extreme right. The Liberals are more of a good old fasioned Conservative Party these days. This is why Turnbull looks at odds with his party, as he is an old fasioned liberal. He could of gone either way.

    Now at the end of the spectrum sits the Greens, and the KAP. One at left and the other to the right. It has been some time since the Greens have only concerned themselves with the enviroment alone. As they have grown they have delved into the social and economic policy area of Australia. A lot of there principles are based around a moderate socialist side of European politics. Now the KAP sit very right with old fasioned thinking and values. These are the core of their policy and is run very close to the religious doctrine that past and some present conservative governments apply.

    So when I say extreme, I mean it in political terms, not human terms. And remember every political side has it's zealots.
     
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    When have they smashed down doors at parliament house and when have they rioted?
     
  7. efjay

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    Little mate you'd better have a look at some of the past actions of your mate commie bob. He has done just that in the past AND MORE.
    The greens are a party of fools and dropkicks.
     
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    You give me a source and I will take an objective look at it.

    If you can't provide a source then I call bs.
     
  9. efjay

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    LOL
    For someone that has such a strong opinion you are dumb as dog cr@p. Bob brown burned and spat on an aussie flag during the 1996 riot at parliament house.
     
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    Maybe Bob Brown had his reasons in doing so. As you appear to know it all, why don't you tell us what his reasons were at the time?
     
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    There is NO valid reason to do what he did.
     
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    The Greens are the onliest party I would vote for, and compared to other politicians, Bob Brown is trustworthy, and has good ideas , which will help us for a better, substainable future, IMHO.
     
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    That post shows your opinion aint worth cr@p.
    The greens HATE industry, have no idea on fiscal responsibility, have communist leanings and to top it of commie bob hates our flag and country.
     
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    Hey, you true blue, there are always reasons.......
    Eg. you are Australian, and jailed in Guantanomo, and your government cannot give a rats ass.
    Or your name is Assange, and again your government just don't cares.
    Or you are young and stupid, had some (*)(*)(*)(*) in your laguage, off to Bali, and were whistle blowed by your own police, and rot in a hellhole, far from home.
    There are 1000 reason....
    Looking like an Indian, born and raised in AUS, but still being spat on...
    Quite frankly, I think you haven't got any idea!!!!!!!
     
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    God am I happy about people like you, brilliant comment, and so intelligent.....
     
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    Wrong again, the Greens don't hate industries, but certainly coal mines. Me too.
    If we can build our own solar parks, with panels made in AUS, we are on the right way.
    What are you saying now, you hate creater?
     
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    He was supporting a TERRORIST organization. Should have been shot on the spot.
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    Another great example of criminal stupidity right there!
    Seems to be a theme to the eg that you posted...ALL CRIMINALS. No sympathy should be given to em. Least of all the drug smuggling scum that should be shot in the head on the spot.
     
  18. efjay

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    Solar and wind will NEVER be able to provide the base load power that coal gives us nor could they ever be as cost effective....understand that FACT before making yourself look so stupid.
     
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    Maybe not but they are resources that will constantly be avialable whereas coal is a finite source that the quicker that you realise that FACT the better.
     
  20. parker

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    So no source then?
     
  21. efjay

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    OMFG! you need source for the 1996 riots?... Dude if you dont know what happened in those riots ( a very pivotal time in aussie politics) then really you shouldnt be posting here.
     
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    Little man best you UNDERSTAND what you type before hitting enter aye

    And thats just here in Aus.
     
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    I was three years old at the time thus I don't claim to have a whole lot of knowledge a riot that was probably not even very relevant when it occured.

    Show your source to prove your point or admit that you have no point.
     
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    So? They are still finite and the quicker we stop using them, the easier the transition will be.
     
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    I wasnt around when Cook landed here so it didnt happen.....
    You goose.
     

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