Eastman wanted to Overthrow the duly elected Govt of We the People

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblo...es-we-were-trying-to-overthrow-the-government

Eastman is using the DOI to justify the "right" to "overthrow" the government for being "oppressive" presumably towards racist white Xtofascists.

Is it "oppressive" to deny Xtofascists their "right" to actively discriminate against POC Americans?

Because that is the underlying context to what he is claiming.

As the article points out when the Founding Fathers wrote the DOI they knew that they would be hanged as traitors if they failed. The American Revolution was not about the slaves they were actually oppressing but about the taxes they considered to be "oppressive".

Fast forward and what do we have today?

Elitist white racist Xtofascists objecting to paying taxes because some portion of them provide benefits to POC who are still a minority in our nation and nowhere near a "threat" to the advantages enjoyed by whites who control the majority of the wealth and power in our nation.

The concept that the Xtofascists are being "oppressed" is risible given that they are openly oppressing the LBGTQ minority community.

So what we have here is an Admission of Guilt by Eastman that they were conspiring to overthrow the duly elected government of We the People WITHOUT any justification.

Our nation was literally on the brink becoming a dictatorship on January 6th.

We cannot allow this to ever happen again.

 

For those on the right who want to claim that this "right" exists that is NOT the point of this thread.

The point is that there was NO JUSTIFICATION to invoke that "right".

Onus is entirely on the right to provide credible evidence of "oppression" that would justify the use of that "right".

 

When it comes to overthrowing a govt the ONLY thing that matters is who wins.

 

Yup!

Losers can whine all they want but I am not in the least surprised they failed, the gross incompetence prevalent in the GOP leadership these days is their downfall.

For those who recall the origins of the term McCarthyism we have a new version of it, compliments of the current Speaker of the House, only it is now called McCarthyisn't.

 

Derido-te, you seem a little unhinged.

Maybe you gotta calm down.


Your post isn't making much sense and is referring to things you haven't introduced into your post or explained, as if you are expecting us to have read some other news story.

 

No, it sounds like you're trying to lull any conservatives gullible enough to believe you into a false sense of security and obliviousness.

some additional discussions to see:
Less than 35% of those under age 10 are White in 5 states
Whites will become a minority in the U.S. in 14 years
White Deaths Exceed Births in a Majority of U.S. States

 

I was responding to the comments made by another poster WRT to the FAILURE pf your cult leader's attempted insurrection.

 

Trump voters do not believe what you described is true. I think that's what is called a characterization.

 

None of the above addresses the issue of "oppression"!

During the Apartheid era a MINORITY of racist whites oppressed a MAJORITY of POC.

The changing demographics do NOT equate to any transfer of wealth.

 

The LAW of the LAND describes it as a CRIME against the government of We the People.

What cult voters believe is irrelevant as far as the Lar of the Land is concerned.

 

Tell us, how much bigger would that slice of the pie you are going to get be if you had not let in 34 million undocumented immigrants over the last 30 years?

How about NO MONEY for you, and we can give it to more deserving impoverished people living in Africa.

 

Asinine DEFLECTION that does NOT address who actually CONTROLS the WEALTH here in America.

 

Are you claiming this is a zero sum game or not?

If other people hold onto the wealth, does that hurt you? How about if the US takes on many tens of millions of poor people from the Third World?

 

Please tell us what the top tax rate is for rich people is in the U.S.

(Don't forget to tell us why Democrats have expressed no interest getting rid of capital gains tax and subjecting it to the same normal income tax that most people pay)

 

Yet another asinine DEFLECTION attempt.

 

Way too low which is WHY we have a Budget Deficit which in turn grows the National Debt.

Redink Ronnie Reagan started the crime of under taxing the wealthy and it need to be repealed ASAP.

I would propose a mandatory Wealth Tax on ALL income in excess of $400,000 p.a. that remains in place as long as there is a National Debt. Once the ND is reduced to zero the Wealth Tax rate drops to zero and remains there as long as the ND remains at zero otherwise it applies. Funding from the Wealth Tax goes directly towards paying off the ND and nothing else.

How many times do I have to tell you that I am an Independent and have no responsibility to explain the failures of the Dems?

 

What we really need to know is what was the plan to get martial law into the streets. What was the planning at the Willard Hotel?

 

Klingenstein asked Eastman whether he would have acted in the same way in 1960 as he did in 2020, referencing the belief on the right that John F. Kennedy stole that year’s election from Richard Nixon.

Eastman replied no, and added that the stakes of 2020 represented an “existential threat to the very survivability, not just of our nation, but of the example that our nation, properly understood, provides to the world.”
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/eastman-reiterates-support-for-full-insurrection

I'm not sure I've seen a statement more immersed in irony. The failed coup Eastman helped orchestrate was an “existential threat to the very survivability, not just of our nation, but of the example that our nation, properly understood, provides to the world.”

 

Eastman's plan was never put into effect. Suggesting the recertification of voted not only isn't unprecedented it is perfectly legal.

 

All wealth is controlled by the owners of the wealth. Fortunately that hasn't changed YET.

 

Methinks there is way more out there than Jack Smith is using in the indictments.

Probably going to be several books written about all of the different aspects of the conspiracy.

Coconspirator #6 was the Putin appointed handler for the BLOTUS given what I have read but I am sure there is way more to it than just that part. According to something I heard yesterday Gorbachov made an unusual detour to Trump Tower while on a State visit to see St Reagan in the Oval office back in the 1980's. Apparently there are considerable amounts of money involved.

So there is a great deal we still need to know about the Traitor-in-Chief.