efficiency of charging electric car with gas generator?

Well electric definitely has internal combustion trumped on that aspect. As I understand it electric motors have 100% torque as soon as you hit the juice.

No having to get up to speed and RPMs to increase your torque.

I don't need a race car just something that'll go when I hit the gas. My minivans had a mystery come and go dead cylinder for about the last 20,000 miles and also it does something funny where they transmission or something shakes rather roughly when the RPM to get near shifting and if you don't get off the gas it'll keep doing it.

We've checked all the common culprits it's probably something in the damn electronics of a Dodge no doubt.

But anyhow I kind of digress....

I just want something where I can be at intersection or stop sign and be able to go at a reasonable rate of speed that the people behind me aren't getting kind of pissed off....

I mean not that it's the end of the world but you know it could be a safety issue if you can't drive it normal speed per se .....

It's fine most of the time and it's fine after you get it up to speed.


But I will say other than that issue she's been pretty good to me for a vehicle getting near 300,000 miles.

I got it a little bit more than a year ago I believe I've put at least 20,000 if not more on it.

I put new tires plugs and wires, some sort of oil sensor it's only $13 part.

Change the oil three times, change to a new water pump, top radiator hose.... And I think that's about it.


I got the hose for $13 and about 40 minutes after I ordered it, it was at the shop and I put it on myself.

If you're going to have a beater you better have the ability and means to do some degree of work on it yourself.

 

Amen.

Being able to work on a car made it possible for me to own one in high school - when there was no rich daddy, uber, or other means of conveyance with someone special.

 

It might be one small sized additional factor that makes homes less affordable to buy.
Also, people living in areas prone to natural disasters are going to stand to have even a little bit more to lose.

 

But thankfully since electric cars require less maintenance, this would probably not have been the case for someone like you at that age living in the future.

Even if we assume that electric cars are an overall investment that will eventually pay off, I think we know that it is going to become harder for the young to afford them.

 

And at the same rate electric prices are growing...

 

No, not like everything else. That's what people like you don't get. An electric car requires far more power than other typical electrical things.

The only thing possibly comparable to an electric car in power usage is an entire home electric heating element heater.

It's no coincidence that an electric car battery bank has to be so big and expensive. It's so big it would be impractical for someone to have to remove the battery out every time they charged it.

 

And God help you if you have to replace those batteries...... I think 15,000 is a conservative estimate?

I have heard if one of those things catches a fire that the fire department simply drags it out in the middle of the street to continue burning until it goes out of its own accord, as they are impossible to extinguish.

 

But how many people are driving a 20-year-old electric vehicle ?

They too just like gasoline driven vehicles, will require some maintenance and upkeep as they get older.

 

Show me the math that makes you think it wouldn't be a cost benefit to the buyer.

 

Overall long-term cost benefit is something different from initial affordability, isn't it?

 

My point was that in a world where all cars were electric, someone young like WillReadmore would probably not have been able to have a car at that age.

 

Yes. That's one of the reasons that having home solar installed as part of the original construction is a financial win.

That way, the cost is part tiny part of a 30 year mortgage, while the full benefit of lower electric bills is immediate.

 

I don't know how you are bringing natural disasters into this.

 

The financial mathematics do not work out quite as well in certain parts of the country.

If there is a 25% chance that my investment is not going to finish paying off in the next 15 years, I would say that is significant.

You seem to be just blindly assuming the investment is going to pay off, without considering the chance in some situations of damage to the physical investment.

 

OK, if that's what you think then do the math to show that.

And, the way one takes care of possible damage to ones home is to carry insurance. Right?

 

I'm just saying it's something you have to factor into your math.

Which adds additional expense.

You don't seem to be very concerned about the money or how much all of this will actually cost.

 

Anyway, please send us a picture of your electric car, and tell us all about how the energy from your solar panels is able to provide all the power for charging your electric car.

Otherwise, until then, I will assume you do not actually believe this makes personal financial sense for you.

 

There are large sections of America where roof top solar does pay off.

You can tell that by noting that there are companies that will put solar on your roof with NO charge if you sign a contract with them to share in the cost reduction of the generated electricity.

This is NOT limited to CA. There is a company doing this in CT, for example.

Please develop some level of evidence before charging me with mistakes.

 

I have never claimed that solar panels will be enough to fuel your ev. Home solar WILL reduce the cost of electricity to your home. And, home power IS a cheaper fuel than is gasoline almost everywhere in the US.

A key to whether an ev vs. a gas car equivalent will pay off on fuel cost alone depends on how long a person tends to own their vehicles.

Evs require less maintenance. So far, I've just ignored that benefit.

Once again, you are confusing the financial issues of solar panels and ev ownership.

 

Just curious:

Why are you so opposed to electric vehicles and home power production?

 

Yes it is, but you are disingenuously conflating the issues.

If you had some infinitely long extension cord that could magically float in the air and go directly from your solar panels on your roof to your car driving on the road, that would of course be a different issue. But that is kind of just fanciful imagination, isn't it?

Tell us again how much those two separate giant battery banks would cost to be able to get that solar power to your car? (Never mind the likely overall 50% to 60% loss in efficiency from subsequently having to transfer that power through both of those batteries, but I guess that's not a problem for you because you can just double the number of solar panels on your roof to compensate, right? I hope you have a very big roof and live in a sunny climate, because not all people do)

 

I'm just opposed to all the naive and blissfully stupidity. Bother doing some rough math, and also consider all the cons, and I won't complain.

Just because some people have a vague idea that it is good for the environment is not enough. I need to see some math. How much will it cost, and how much inconvenience might it end up creating for people? How much will it actually overall help the environment, when we really consider the cons?
(energy use to create and environmental impact of those battery banks, for example)

 

LOL - it is YOU who is conflating the issues, not me.

EV fuel is a cheaper fuel than gas across the majority of America if you plug in at your home and have NO solar and NO home battery.

Please stop mentioning home solar in posts about EVs, OK?

I'm fine with talking about home solar. But, there IS NO dependency such as you keep pitching.

 

Really, I highly doubt that. Especially in parts of America where most people live and where the population is most strongly in favor of electric cars, electric power costs are higher.

Some of this might be you comparing apples and oranges if most electric vehicles are built to be flimsy small and lightweight.

Let's also make sure we factor in the replacement cost of that electric battery after, say, 10 years. Which at that point can cost almost as much as the car is worth.

 

Just pick comparable vehicles and do the math!

EVs publish max distance and battery capacity. You can then calculate the watt hours required for the distance and apply your local utility charge for a watt hour.

Then, use the mpg for your comparable gas car to go that distance to find how much gas you have to buy.

If you post that here, be sure to identify each number you use, which vehicles you used, what your gas and electricity charges you used, etc.

This is all VERY public info.