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Either You're With America And Freedom, Or On The Side Of The Enemy

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by liberalminority, Jan 4, 2020.

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    President George W Bush once said 'either you're with us, or with the terrorists'.

    President Trump reiterates this, the Iranian regime is the enemy.

    Our Commander in Chief supports the Iranian people, but their leaders are preventing both of our countries from getting richer with their oil.



     
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    How'd that work out with Bush?

    Oh yea...we invaded Iraq and had no plan for what to do next.

    And here we are again saying the same stupid stuff with a President even LESS capable of looking past tomorrow
     
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    Yes, the freedom of a nation, a people, to choose their government. This excludes outsiders imposing such things as a coup d'état to replace such a government. It is no wonder that a nation that has had its government thus overturned feel resentful towards the guilty.
     
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    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

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    Accepting one's responsibility for consequences is the essential step in resolving a situation.
     
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    Doesn't even remotely resemble the reality on the ground in Iraq.
     
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    It isn't about Iraq; it's about Iran.
     
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    Tell us all about your "reality". I'm sure you spent a lot of time in Iraq..."on the ground".
     
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    It doesn't resemble it there either.
     
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    ...and that is not because the U.S. truly endorsed freedom.
     
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    That bovine excrement WARMONGERING rhetoric by the Bush/Cheney regime turned out to be a COMPLETE DISASTER and SCREWED up the Middle East.

    Now the INCOMPETENT-in-Chief is trying to ILLEGALLY START A WAR so that he can PRETEND to be a "war president" in November!
    Just another REASON that the Senate MUST REMOVE him from the Oval office and then hand him over to be tried for his Crimes Against Humanity.
     
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    I would like to point out that Trump made his stand as being against wars in 2016, so to pretend to be a 'war president' this election year would be hypocritical, but...well, never mind.
     
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    Trump killed another terrorist leader and your media has you so wee wee’d up you think it’s an outrage. Take a few minutes to think about that.
     
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    I haven't encountered anyone who considers the act an outrage. The concern is about long term strategies, if there are any.
     
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    Your Imbecile-in-Chief FAILED to NOTIFY Congress that he was STARTING another illegal WAR!

    So yes, if you bother to "take a few minutes to think about that" you would realize that our FELLOW AMERICANS are going to DIE because of your IMPOTUS's blind stupidity and arrogance!

    Too bad his supporters haven't figured out that he is an EGOTISTICAL MORON yet!
     
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    Iran is going to retaliate which is a given so now we need to prevent the IMPOTUS from escalating that into a full scale war!
     
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    Good we can't wait to see more shock and awe on Television.
     
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    Not one government in the world truly endorses freedom. That is antithetical to the very raison d'etre of governments.
     
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    Some few of them go in with rose colored glasses, but then they read Alinsky or Machiavelli and they're like all the rest: it's all about the princes(esse's).

    It will never be possible to get good government. You just gotta get the best you can get.
     
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    What "we" won't see on television is the true cost of yet another PNAC - AIPAC driven war for Israel in the form of mutilated, burned, traumatized and dismembered young American G.I.s.

    Trump's moronic decision to murder a widely popular Iranian General Soleimani who did not happen to have bone spurs was an entirely unnecessary, serious & deliberate provocation that will guarantee the loss of American and innocent regional lives when Iran retaliates.

    I find absolutely nothing "Good" about sacrificing more American lives in another war from which only "Greater Israel" hawks & Saudi royals will benefit.
     
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    Just the next step in the Forever Wars. Trump has been sucked in just like the last two Presidents.

    The Law of Unintended Consequences rules in the middle-east.
     
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    they will not retaliate against President Trump, iran is smarter than democrats
     
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    Yep, and Obama was against wars too . . . until he became a Warmonger-in-Chief while leftists . . . cheered.
     
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    I hope you're right because I've got close relatives that are already serving in the region & would be in the middle of of any conflict.
     
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    No they're not!

    If this escalates, they could become an enemy. And, as Americans, we will support our country,. But that does not mean that we support Trump's idiotic policies that brought us there. It only means, again, that Trump needs to be removed.... quickly! Before he does any more damage.
     
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    agreed, but they are freedom fighters
     
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