Yes I did and no recording is to be found. Probably why you read about it ( hearsay ) and never heard it. You still failed to show evidence backing it up. Probably because after looking it up it is clear that the claim is based on hear say with no recording but the author alludes to one which he claims was never released. In fact it was not a slip up but an admission by marcello while in prison long after the assassination and part of a series of claims that he bragged about such things. Maybe you are unaware but the fact is there is a subtle but little known way to prove an inmate is lying. Their lips begin to move and noises come out. Completely worthless and with a shred of supporting evidence.
The FBI admits that CAMTEX is not only real but that Vanlannigham was Marcello's cellmate for years and that they were taping everything. They refuse to release the tapes. Vanlannigham says that Marcello confessed. In fact it was not a slip up but an admission by marcello while in prison long after the assassination and part of a series of claims that he bragged about such things. Maybe you are unaware but the fact is there is a subtle but little known way to prove an inmate is lying. Their lips begin to move and noises come out. This said by someone who claims that "if it happened someone would have talked." Well a lot of them talked but people like you find excuses to not believe them. You really shouldn't talk out of both sides of your mouth
Yes they would have talked in a credible fashion with evidence. When hundreds make the same claim no on is believable unless one of them can offer evidence. A jailhouse confession heard second hand is meaningless. No one knows what is on this recording making your entire claim supposition. Once again where is the EVIDENCE?
So even though you keep saying "someone would have talked"...you refuse to believe anyone when they do.
And of course anyone who "talks" is discounted as a "criminal" or whatever. Of course who but a criminal would have been involved?
No sir . They are discounted for one simple reason which you keep proving. Not one of them has so much as a smidge of evidence to support their grandiose claim. You have been repeatedly asked for such evidence and instead you try a circular argument which is self defeating.
I've provided numerous links to a variety of evidence. You have provided none. And evidence on this site would HAVE to be provided by link. Have you not figured out how this interweb thing works yet?
As noted in the other thread. Just saying "it's in the Warren Commission Report" isn't documenting anything
thats the understatement of the century. thats basically the same thing as admitting defeat the fact the warren commission has been shredded to pieces over the years by so many different independent researchers.
Ignore the nazi troll I have him on ignore, people like that literally can't handle the fact their government has been lying to them for decades so just act like contrary little children when discussing this. It shakes the foundation of their belief system and faith in their country so they refuse to even contemplate it despite mountains of evidence. The CIA killed Kennedy, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that fact, it has been conclusively proven time and again by now. The only real question is why did they do it? Most likely foreign policy, they viewed Kennedy as a threat to US national security who had to be removed, a threat to the existence of the CIA, and a threat to the profits of the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned of. That is the reason they did it most likely, they thought he was a lily-livered, naive, idealistic, communist sympathiser who would disable America's defences in a false detente with the USSR and lead to America losing the Cold War which he was trying to stop. I am currently re-reading a book called 'JFK and the Unspeakable' by Jim Douglass, it doesn't have too much new information but has most of the pertinent stuff and makes the case extremely soundly that the CIA conducted a coup d'etat in 1963 and got away with it. Of that there is no doubt. The ramifications are still being felt today, with WWIII potentially just round the corner in a scenario Kennedy envisioned and was actively trying to avoid. I would recommend the book, along with 'On the trail of the Assassins' by Jim Garrison and 'Crossfire' by Jim Marrs as amongst the best on the subject. Also the talks on youtube by Gary Shaw among others. The same people also killed Bobby btw, they really had no choice he was going to become president and reopen the investigation into his brother's death and that would have meant the conspirators would have been caught and tried for treason, and they also killed Martin Luther King. Google Loyd Jowers for info on MLK. Its amazing 99% of Americans have never heard of Jowers when his trial was easily the most important of the 20th century in the USA, but a compliant press didn't report it so almost all Americans have never heard of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers
I think you're only half right. There was heavy CIA involvement in the plot to kill Kennedy (and his brother) but only so much as there was heavy CIA/Mafia connections in Cuba (both the Bay of Pigs and the subsequent documented attempts on Castro's life). Johnny Rosselli was a Mafia capo and also a CIA asset...and there were numerous others in both organizations who's loyalties were as complicated. Once you're in bed with the Mob ...they have hooks in you that don't go away. It's also important to realize that the CIA rarely got their hands dirty directly. They weren't the trained killers that the KGB was. They relied on criminal elements/hired killers and "anti-communist" type organizations to do their dirty work. To say that the CIA did it...I think would be wrong although there were "rogue elements" that were involved. I'm a little skeptical of Garrison. Some of his work was good but a lot of it was so far out there that he almost looks like a CIA straw man (a target easily defended against). Also understand that the CIA pays media people like Posner and McAdams to put out books and articles that either confuse the issues or defend their position.
I agree with everything you say though think you're getting it the wrong way round. The CIA employed the Mafia to do that not the other way round, they were already working with the mob and the Cuban exiles to kill Castro long before JFK, this same group of people they are called...Operation Mongoose was the name for the operation and the group were called Alpha 40 or something I forget exactly, anyway they are the ones who actually carried out the assassination, but they were trained, directed, funded, controlled and answerable to the CIA, they were CIA assets. The CIA, as you say, always generally outsources these things to such groups or mercenaries, though to say they are not trained killers is wrong. There were many who straddled both groups but the CIA were calling the shots all along, think about it, could the Mafia control the investigation and engineer the cover-up so effectively? No, but the CIA could, the mob were just used as a tool by much more powerful organisations. And as you say they have media assets they use too, the phrase 'conspiracy theorist' was actually coined by the CIA right after the assassination specifically to be used as a pejorative term for those that questioned the Warren findings. I don't think it was rogue elements of the CIA at all actually, I think it was the very elite of the organisation, there is no doubt Allen Dulles was heavily involved, as was Cabell, as was Richard Helms. These are very, very senior people in the CIA at the time of and right before the assassination, also Bill Harvey, Cord Meyer, a few of the Watergate plumbers too. The mafia, Cuban exiles and other CIA assets were the ones used to do it but the ones planning and orchestrating the whole thing were the CIA, it was 100% a CIA operation. There is the question though if they were answerable to anybody above them who directed them, who knows maybe they were. I'm assuming you've seen E Howard Hunt's confession? He lists a chain of command. I do believe LBJ and Hoover were in on it too. So many people involved turned out to be CIA, George de Mohrenschildt was CIA, Ruth and Michael Paine are CIA, Ferrie was CIA linked, Clay Shaw was CIA. Everywhere you turn in the whole thing you immediately get straight back to the CIA, there is no doubt they did it.
getting back to the topic yeah you are so right,there is way too much evidence shown over the years that the CIA killed him.and yeah I have read that book by Douglass a couple of times.You are right,that is one of the top five best books on the JFK assassination easily and goes into great detail WHY it is important for there to be an honest investigation into the assassination and how his coverup still affects our lives today as we speak. You are also correct on those other two books on the trail of the assassins and Crossfire.I have read over a 100 books on the assassination and I would say crossfire and douglass's books are the two best ones ever written. those reasons you gave why the CIA killed him are spot on. war means big profits for corporations and he was going to pull out of vietnam,they knew Johnson would be their boy would do whatever they asked and just as they knew he would,he reversed kennedys policy on vietnam and esculated the war.
You should read the work of Penn Jones.You got to remember the media is controlled by the CIA so a lot of the stories put out there on Garrison being far out are put out there by them.they hire people like Posner and others to try and discredit him saying he was paranoid and disinfo crap like that,sadly many people I know in real life have swallowed it.But Penn Jones he has countered and debunked the slandering of Garrions by the Posner types.Posner was indeed being used by the CIA to prop up their lies that oswald was the lone assassin. A long time researcher who was one of their early pioneers-forget his name at the moment,he wrote a book that refuted and countered Posners lies and showed him what a tool and liar Posner is.Posners book was called Case Closed.the author then countered all of posners lies with his book Case Open. Gizmo is correct,it was the CIA that employed the mafia to do it,they were indeed trained,funded,controlled and answerable to the CIA.I know this american history professor who has researched the case as much as anyone has.He is a walking encyclopedia computer on the subject and he has documented everything Gizmo said that the CIA funded,trained,controlled the mob and they were answerable to them. Like Gizmo said,it was an ELITE group of people in the CIA who pulled it off..Not everyone in the CIA did of course,not all people who work for the CIA are bad people,its just the people at the very top in high power like Allen Dulles running the organization are the ones that are evil people who killing to them means as much to them as it does to us when we step on an ant.nothing whatsoever.any everyday thing.
best damn post on this thread bar none. the only thing I can add on here to this excellent post of yours is that Nixon was involved as well. Him and LBJ were long time pals with each other who served together in the senate in their early days. Nixon lied about his whereabouts that day,as you know from your research,everybody who was alive back then knew exactly where they were that day when he was assassinated.the only two people in the world who could not remember where they were that day were CIA hitman E Howard Hunt and Richard "D!CK" Nixon. Nixon changed his story like three of 4 times where he was that day initially lying saying he was not in dallas that day only later admitting he was when pictures surfaced showing he was in dallas early that day for a pesci cola convention. Pepsi was linked to the CIA.That was why Oliver Stone showed the pepsi insignia in his movie at the beginning. Nixon pardoned Jack Rubu who worked for the CIA in 1947 from the unamerican activities committe as a congressmen.Nixon like LBJ had deep ties to the mob.Nixon also had deep ties to the CIA. When he was vice president under Eisenhower,he was running secret covert CIA wars for them that the american people knew nothing about.Eisenhower did not even know about them. Hunt was a CIA operative for Nixon. when you hear Nixon say on the Nixon tapes-that scab Hunt is a loose cannon,that whole bay of pigs thing might get out.HR HALDEMAN said that what Nixon was really referring to was the whole kennedy assassination thing that he was involved in. I assume you are also aware of LBJ's mistress saying that the night before the assassination there was a party at HL Hunts ranch house and according to her,LBJ,Nixon,and Hoover were all there and they were all in a room together and LBJ came out of the room and gripped her arm very tightly hurting her and said-after tomorrow that kennedy bastard will never embarrass me again.thats no threat,thats a promise. you heard about that right? No reason to doubt her since again,Johnson and Nixon were long time plas with each other back in their days in the senate and both were very good friends with Hoover as well and all thre of them hated the kennedys. Only reason i can think of why Hunt on his deathbed confession left out Nixons involvement i guess is since he nearing death,he couldnt remember ALL the players involved in the exact details is my guess.
