Elderly People Don't Count

You are wrong there. The US, the richest country in the world is the 10th worst in the world for deaths per million of population.

The only countries worse than the US are Brazil, Peru, Spain, Chile, Boliva, Ecuador, Belguim, Andorra and San Marino

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

~ Even among the elderly, about 90% of those who contract the coronavirus survive.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/21/chances-of-getting-covid-19-are-slim-dying-from-it/

~ He takes a prophylaxis dose of Hydroxychloroquine daily.

~ You forgot the UK .

 

The difference between 100 deaths per million and 1000 deaths per million is 0.09%. In once case, you have a 99.99% chance of not dying and in the other you have only a 99.90% chance.

 

Unless of course you are in the segment of the population that has a near 20% chance of dying on any given day, just from the wind blowing and being struck by a feather

 

Most of them wouldn't even be alive under Ezekiel Emanuel's "Complete Lives System", you know, the guy Obama appointed to lead the ACA on the allocation of healthcare resources.

 

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Take two countries with a population of 1 million.

The country with 100 deaths loses 0.01% of its population; the country with 1000 deaths loses 0.1%.

In that example, the difference is 900 dead people.

Looks like quite a different scenario....

 

So, what is left? Overpriced policies that are one size fits all, and forces a person to pay for coverage that they do not need. Not to mention, forcing insurance to cover birth control medications without a co-payment, and liberal talking points such as abortions and gender reassignment surgeries. Why shouldn't a woman pay a co-payment for birth control medications, when I have to pay a co-payment for diabetes and High Blood Pressure Medications? If my 80 year old mother is not going to need birth control, have an abortion or suddenly decide she is really a man, then why should she have to buy a policy that contained coverage for these items.

The ACA does not need to be tweaked. It needs to be replaced. There was a GOP proposal that Obama claimed that he would consider, and then totally ignored. It is simple. Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines. They currently can't. I managed a trucking terminal near a state line. Two of my drivers lived on the other side of that line. They had a choice. Accept the insurance offered at our location, or they would negotiate with the same insurance company in their home state. That would mean that they had to choose, whether to have their families use doctors and hospitals in the state they lived, or cross the state line for medical services. Both initially chose to be insured in their own state. That was until they realized that the policies in their state would be 25% higher, then in the state where they worked. In the end, their families had to cross the state lines to get medical services.

But if insurance companies were allowed to sell across state lines, they could purge state pools into national pools. That would give them greater negotiating power to lower costs which lowers rates. That with a provision to cover preexisting conditions, and allowing insurance coverage to tailor coverage to individual customers actual needs. You would accomplish everything the ACA was supposed to accomplish. You would not even need a personal mandate, because the companies could offer policies that everyone could afford. No mandate, no one size fits all, and damn sure no fake programs like Medicare for all. A simple tweak to the system that existed prior to the ACA. Something, that would actually work.

 

~ Yes indeed. Nothing convoluted and 9 thousand pages of legal gobbledygook. Obama was a mess from start to finish .

 

Globally, almost 55 million people die every year. Covid-19 is an "add-on", but not enough to keep everyone shut in their homes.

 

" Don't call me Pops ! "

 

fake news

this is what really happened


"The Trump Administration’s Deregulation of Nursing Homes Leaves Seniors and Disabled at Higher Risk for COVID-19"

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...leaves-seniors-disabled-higher-risk-covid-19/

"Why are nursing homes being hit so hard by the outbreak? One reason is that they are a target of the Trump administration’s aggressive deregulation agenda."

"In response, the nursing home lobby again advocated for less oversight, and in July 2019, the Trump administration proposed new rules relaxing the requirements tied to infection control. It suggested that consultants could be used, instead of requiring infection specialists to be employed at the site, at minimum, on a part-time basis. This meant that there was no longer a requirement for a full-time, hands-on expert in infection contamination on-site."

the reality is, Nursing Homes should have separated infected people, they failed to do this, hospitals could not give up a bed for everyone that showed no symptoms and tested positive, not enough beds

 

Cuomo killed more seniors than needed to die from Covid, and the answer is "...but Trump!" lol

New York State is getting to the bottom of the NY nursing home cover up. Great guy, that Cuomo.




https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/pols-seek-accounting-of-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-under-cuomo/

 

Trump lied, people died.....

the reality is, Nursing Homes should have separated infected people, they failed to do this, hospitals could not give up a bed for everyone that showed no symptoms and tested positive, not enough beds

 

That in no way changes the reality that the United States, the richest country in the world has the 10th most dead per capita in the world. It was unable to look after its people as other countries could. The UK only slips in a little better than the US. Both of them it seems decided to move people out of hospital and put them in care homes where they spread the virus causing mass killing. In the UK this was done without testing them.

 

Like the UK you had got rid of your preparations for a pandemic. Prior to this the UK and the US were considered the best prepared for such. Having destroyed our preparations we became two of the worst as far as keeping people alive is concerned.

 

The U.S. is like 50 countries as far as health care and preparedness. State governors are responsible. Some states have fewer than 100 deaths per million while places like N.Y. and N.J. have 1700-1800 deaths per million.

 

To put it into prospective, you only have to remember the words of the late not-so-great Harry Reid. The ACA was designed to fail, and was a step towards a single payer system. Not long after that, he managed to "hurt himself" and did not seek reelection.

 

Which is a bit deceiving - the states that have been the hardest hit are the states with the busiest international Sea and Airports and denser
population centers. They also tend to be the states that contribute the most to the National GDP. Busy commerce equals more exposure. Ain't rocket science.

 

We did that in Texas. De Santis did that in Florida. Cuomo and Newsom threw infected residents in with the non-infected until there was loud public outcry.

 

That may be so but the real problem as I said was in giving up what were considered the best in the world preparations.

I know that because at the beginning of this people were giving me links saying that the UK and US were considered No 1 and 2 in dealing with Pandemics. The data was old. They had been trashed.

cont'd at link

https://couriernewsroom.com/2020/04...r-a-potential-pandemic-trump-gutted-his-work/

 

Cuomo could have closed the state border by quarantining anyone leaving or coming in and prevented the spread from there to the rest of the country. But could have, would have, should have doesn't bring anyone back. It isn't rocket science.

 

there is not enough hospital beds to house all the asymptomatic people - the nursing homes should have kept them isolated, but Trump stopped that

these nursing home should be doing the same for people with the flu... this is an issue that needs to be addressed in nursing homes, I am guessing they will be sued for their failure to do so

 

yep, the right keeps trying to blame Obama for Trump's failures....sad!

 

Obama wrote a 69-page "pandemic playbook". Why didn't he follow his own book and refill our medical stockpiles as "the book" advised? Talk is cheap. Obama didn't even follow his own administration's advice.

Anyway, the problem goes back decades even before Obama. We get a new virus and scientists start working on a vaccine, which usually takes 7 years. During that time, the virus dies out on it's own and people stop working on the vaccine. The same cycle has repeated over and over again.

 

We did separate them in Texas. That isn't Trump's decision. It's up to the governors.

Cuomo shrugged. Old people are going to die.

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.” -Andrew Cuomo